telophase: (Princess Tutu - O.o // base by sub_divid)
telophase ([personal profile] telophase) wrote2006-03-17 01:16 pm

Hmm...

Well, [livejournal.com profile] sub_divided, it looks like we've hit Anime News Network with the Samurai Zombie thing.

[identity profile] oneiroelpida.livejournal.com 2006-03-18 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
The forum on ANN is making me headdesk. People arguing about the source being an LJ. Then people saying that it's NOT plagiarism because they're "not identical"...I see. So, in that case, if you copy something BADLY Then it's not plagiarism either? I'm not feeding the wank by responding, but some of those people are just idiots. -_-

[identity profile] madame-manga.livejournal.com 2006-03-18 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
I got a little irritated at the "not identical" crowd too, and so...

http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpubimage.asp?id_=16304363

An even better link to throw at them would be the US Copyright Office; (http://www.copyright.gov/) there's this peculiar idea among artists that you only need to change your source by a certain "percentage" and you're legally OK, even if it's still recognizable. Which idea, to put it shortly, is bullshit. :D

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2006-03-18 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
Mmmmmm. Hm. The earlier ones are changed just enough to be referenced and not traced: wonder if he felt he was running out of time to submit and started tracing?

Yah, the "not identical=not plagiarized" crowd make Mugen go "Bzuh?"

[identity profile] madame-manga.livejournal.com 2006-03-18 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, I think you're probably right! Oh, those killer deadlines... :D

[identity profile] oneiroelpida.livejournal.com 2006-03-18 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Whoah. I could see they were ridiculously similiar, but I didn't realize they were THAT close. Why would anyone think they could get away with that? It breaks my brain. I need duct tape.

And people want to believe they can away with the "percentage" rule because people want to break the rules and still have a flimsy excuse. It's sorta like the kid standing next to the cookie jar with a cookie and then saying, "But you didn't see me take it! You can't prove I took it! The cookies just happen to be the same KIND as in the jar!"

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2006-03-18 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
Not to mention that the percentage thing is a GUIDELINE for FAIR USE, and that the rest of the fair use guidelines involve things like NOT MAKING A PROFIT and FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. Which guidelines this entry just does not meet.

[identity profile] lanisatu.livejournal.com 2006-03-19 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
If you're copying your own work, changing a few things, and then submitting it to whomever, it's not plagiarism. Adding this stipulation -- that you need to make some changes for it to not be considered plagiarism anymore -- makes sense. But this only works in the case of your own work. (at least this is now the case where I am)

I can't think of a non-educational reason for slightly altering your own work though...

(of course, this isn't the case this time. They're obviously plagiarizing)