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telophase ([personal profile] telophase) wrote2006-03-17 01:16 pm

Hmm...

Well, [livejournal.com profile] sub_divided, it looks like we've hit Anime News Network with the Samurai Zombie thing.
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2006-03-17 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. You are internet-famous! No way Tokyopop will be missing it now.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
They knew back when I posted it. Tpop editors read this journal; in at least one case, on my friendslist. ;)

I expect that they're probably formulating their response now, and running it by Legal.


is it bad that I kind of want to run around going "I! I'm the one that spotted it first! Not her!"? But that would be weird.

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I love the person who totally ignored the frame-by-frame comparison and said that it was unprofessional to use anything posted on LJ as a source, and accused [livejournal.com profile] sub_divided of having a personal vendetta against the artist.

Wonder if that guy is the artist's sockpuppet?

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh. I dunno - the one person I've yet to run across anything from is the artist... although if it were me, I'd certainly be lying low.

Man, if anyone starts getting any wankier, I'm taking it to fandom_wank, though. XD

Hurray!

[identity profile] rayechu.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. I saw that this morning. I guess some people are getting pissed now because tokyopop isn't pulling the submission. (Maybe even bad publicity is publicity.) I am just mad because it means someone (no one specifically) else's original submission didn't make it.

Re: Hurray!

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. But at least Tokyopop didn't realize how close it was: over on Love Manga (http://www.manga.omoikitte.com/2006/03/843/), [livejournal.com profile] greenapple2004 explains that the three judges hadn't actually read BotI.

And with this starting to swell up, it makes it less likely that someone will try this again in the immediate future.
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2006-03-17 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I knew that, but there could've been the possibility of "LALALALAshovingunderrugnowLALALALA" if it hadn't been picked up by the shiny, nosy internet.

Yep, according to this, anyway.

yes you now burn in INTERNET HELL. Eh, [livejournal.com profile] sub_divided and the Tokyopop editors et al. know what's up. :D [livejournal.com profile] sub_divided certainly wasn't trying to steal your thunder or anything.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It was posted on the internet to start; there was no way it wasn't gonna be found. XD


Hee. Yeah, I know. And it's not important, either, the important part is that the editors know and they'll probably be doing something about it before too long.

Re: Hurray!

[identity profile] rayechu.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, I read that too. I was trying to type quickly and get to dinner so I think I was unclear. I am saying now that TP does know, people (like the last person on that thread) are getting mad it isn't being pulled, while I am upset with the actual artist for intentionally submitting and screwing someone else out of a spot.
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[identity profile] sub-divided.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
WHY DID THEY HAVE TO LINK THE POST WITH THE LOVELESS VIDEO IN IT WRRRYYYYYY.

*hyperventilates*

...okay, I'm calm. XD It's my own for combining topics like that anyway.

What really surprises me is that there don't seem to be any other posts doing first-hand comparisons, it's all links that link to other links that link back to the same five panels you and I found. I really thought there'd be other people posting independently on this, it's such a controversial (hot) topic.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
WHY SHOULD WE DO OUR OWN WORK WHEN PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET WILL DO IT FOR US


You could always edit out the Loveless video and repost it elsewhere. XD

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, I can't believe nobody else posted independently of us. Or maybe someone did and they're just not read by anyone else, so not picked up. Hrm.

Or maybe we're just such sad Samura fangirls that we've memorized the panels. I AM PROUD OF MY BOTI OBSESSION, DAMN YOU!!
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[identity profile] sub-divided.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Also: I'm editing the post to link back to you. (It's in comments, yeah, but I really should have linked to begin with, just like all the people linking my post are doing. -_- I didn't think anyone besides my friendslist (many of whom are BIG FANS of Blade of the Immortal) would see that post.

said that it was unprofessional to use anything posted on LJ as a source

WHAT THE HECK, it's no different from linking something posted in any other blog.
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[identity profile] sub-divided.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd have to delete [livejournal.com profile] emmav's comment if I did that, though. *IS TORN*

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
ADMIT IT: YOU MADE IT ALL UP. YOU DREW THOSE PANELS AFTER READING THE ENTRY AND RETROACTIVELY INSERTED THEM INTO BOTI. JUST SO YOU COULD BE POPULAR ON THE INTERNET.
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[identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Or maybe we're just such sad Samura fangirls that we've memorized the panels.

You need a Sad Samura Fangirl icon.

Plagiarism makes baby Samuras cry.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Or you could screen it for a week or two, until it blows over, then unscreen.

[identity profile] rayechu.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't delete it. The music video was fine.
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[identity profile] sub-divided.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG HOW DID YOU KNOW?!?!?!

Er, I mean. *throws a curtain over the time machine*

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
*snerk* What a lovely idea for an icon. XD

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I AM A GENIUS.

AND NOW THAT I HAVE EXPOSED YOU, I WILL BE POPULAR ON THE INTERNET!
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2006-03-17 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I have been looking at the art of BotI and Samurai Zombie for so long now that I can no longer tell where I see actual similarities or where I am hallucinating or where I can go "AAAGH I KNOW THAT BOTI POSE WHERE IS IT FROM" and not be able to actually find it in the manga. It helps that the artist is mostly lifting stuff from the first few volumes, though. :D

I am not sure about either of these. They don't look exactly alike: the shadows fall differently, the bottom one only works if you tilt it, etc. But hmm. The thing that makes me suspicious about the top one, even though the hand is different, is that the Samurai Zombie's nose slants exactly in line with Manji's nose, and then the rest of the SZ's face has been rearranged around the nose (oddly, so that it looks like his face is melting). I don't know. Am I hallucinating?

[identity profile] madame-manga.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, this DESERVES fandom_wank like nothing else I've seen in a decade! O_o Pulling something like this and winning contests with it is the surest way to make every other artist's blood boil...

I could tell you the story of the guy who applied for a computer graphics job at my workplace using a portfolio lifted from every famous fantasy artist on the planet, but then I'd have to tell you how he applied at ANOTHER place I worked, at least five years later, using some of the same stolen pieces and adding a few taken from friends of mine in the industry. It was a real pleasure to take the wind out of his sails, let me tell you!
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[identity profile] sub-divided.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Deleted section, left comment alone. I'm going to pretend she got the AMV from the public post anyone scrolling through the first page of my journal would have seen right away.

Now I have to worry about people I know in RL finding out I have a livejournal where I post AMVs for catboy molestation shows. Ugh. (It's not that I'm ashamed of the video or Loveless, it's just the idea of it being the first thing hundreds of unknown people find out about me is a little, um.)

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you're hallucinating - I think these are cases where the artist has changed just enough from the reference to be reasonable. And I rather wish he'd done that for the rest of the copied poses. His page layout is very nice, and I think that, at least, is all him.

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