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2020-05-27 01:30 pm
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A few things

Is it just me or is the woman on the cover of An Heiress to Remember, first pic here on SBTB, standing at 90° to her own dress? From the waist up she's facing the camera, but from the waist down, she's facing to our right...

how the hell did that photoshop pass review?

Also, I have achieved sourdough starter rise! FINALLY

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Serious Eats is posting an updated sourdough starter series: The Science of Sourdough Starter, Sourdough Starter Recipe and The Best Flour for Sourdough Starters: An Investigation.

Tonight is pizza again, using dough left over from the loaf I baked on Monday. Pepperoni, plus whatever we can put on it from our CSA box and some leftover ham. Maybe a bit of prosciutto, too, that we bought to eat CSA pears with exactly as they stopped sending them to us.
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2020-05-21 05:08 pm
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Sourdough baking: complete failure! Yay!

Loaf of bread: dwarf bread. It has currently been sawn into thin planks and is at a low temp in the toaster oven in an attempt to dry it out enough for breadcrumbs. If that doesn't work, oh well. Either I didn't knead it enough, the starter wasn't active enough, or both. Probably both.

I also did one of the bread machine sourdough loaf recipes I found, where the starter is used more for flavor than leavening. It rose nicely, but collapsed, leaving a dense-ish brick. Haven't sawn into it yet as it's still warm. I think the problem with this one was that there was too much liquid. Oh well! As [personal profile] myrialux says, it's a learning process.

I've also harvested 1/2 cup of the white flour starter #2 and 1.5 cups of the buckwheat starter #3 so as to have enough for banana bread making--we have 3 bananas at pretty much the peak point for banana bread right now--and for buckwheat pancakes this weekend. We shall see what happens with those, although I expect they'll be fine. The banana bread is a quick bread that uses baking powder and baking soda for leavening, and the pancakes use baking soda.

I am also not incredibly optimistic about the pizza dough, but it has been THOROUGHLY kneaded and is in its 2-day resting/fermenting phase, so we'll see. The dwarf bread/curling stone had some holes in it, indicating there was at least some yeast giving it the old college try. (We have a backup plan if the pizza dough fails to dough.)
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2020-05-20 08:12 pm
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Sourdough crackers!

Made with sourdough! I used the buckwheat/white starter and this recipe, which flavors them with herbes de Provence.

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2020-05-20 10:56 am
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Today's sourdough...

Bread dough made (via stand mixer and dough hook) and placed into fridge. I'm opting for the 24-hour rise in the fridge given the slight lessening of gluten in the dough thanks to a bit of buckwheat in the starter and I've heard that fresh starters don't have as much flavor as mature ones, so slow rises bring out more flav--

---Oh, who am I kidding, I have no idea. I'm just feeling my way here, and guessed that the longer rise would be better. No idea if I even kneaded it the correct amount of time. We'll see! If it ends up flat, we'll have breadcrumbs! XD The dough tasted pretty plain, with just a wee hint of tang, which also went into my calculations.

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2020-05-19 08:34 pm
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Sourdough!

Third time's the charm? I'll find out for sure tomorrow. Maybe.

ANYWAY. So I kept the previous Sourdough 2.0 going for the full 14 days asked by the Wild Sourdough Project, although I started 2 versions of the Serious Eats sourdough (links for all of these in previous posts--see 'sourdough' tag), one using tap water and one using bottled water to check if our water was to blame for killing the previous starter attempts.

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2020-05-19 04:46 pm
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I BELIEVE....

....THAT I HAVE ACHIEVED SOURDOUGH STARTER

But not by using the Wild Sourdough Project’s recipe. More later—I’m on my phone and headachy right now.
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2020-05-12 11:30 am
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This morning the Sourdough 3.0 version made with tap water is smelling almost pleasantly sour--in that way that's in the vicinity of buttermilk/sour cream, but not quite. Bottled water has a faint scent of some sort of vegetable, but neither [personal profile] myrialux nor I can place it. We'll see what changes later this afternoon/evening.
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2020-05-11 06:02 pm
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Sourdough 2.0 and 3.0

11th and 12th feedings, May 10 and 11

Much the same: no activity indicating yeast, sour-bad smells. I have now concluded that I have two carefully nurtured bacterial colonies. I shall report that to the project in 2 days, after the 14th feeding, then I shall toss them.

But what would cause them to fail? After some more research, I found out that our city’s water systems doesn’t use chlorine, but chloramine to treat the water. That’s a combo of chlorine and ammonia and, more importantly, it does not outgas from water if you let it sit overnight.

We have a whole-house water filter that the builders installed, and we somewhat recently had it serviced, so it should be working. I am not sure exactly which filter it is and the company’s website says that some filter out chloramine, and others don’t.

So I started two more, using the Serious Eats method (link in a prior entry), one with tap water straight from the tap, and one with bottled water, which should technically tell me if the water is the problem. If those both fail, I’ll get some different bottled water and try using a starter with some yeast put in it. I want to know why they all fail!

So SE#1, started last night, smelled like flour and a little bit of sourness today. It also had either a lot of hooch on top, or it had separated, so I went ahead and fed it. SE#2, started this morning when I realized I could try the bottled water, smelled like flour and water. I went ahead and fed it anyway, just to get them both on the same schedule.

SCIENCE! Of a sort.
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2020-05-09 08:44 pm
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Sourdough 2.0

10th feeding, May 9

Earlier today I smelled both, and they both smelled very bready! A bit sour, a bit funky, the whole wheat funkier than the white, but bready. When I had [personal profile] myrialux smell them a couple of hours later, he said he got funkiness from the whole wheat and cheese from the white.

I forgot to feed them until 3 hours after the time I was supposed to, and by that time they’d both gone a bit more acidic and funky. The whole wheat was sharply acidic, while the white flour one wasn’t quite so much.

D.Va had ninjaed up behind me and sat down quietly as I was feeding them. Once I noticed her, I let her sniff the white starter. She backed up hurriedly, casting a glance between me and the jar, as if to say “WTF is this shit?!” Not a fan, apparently.

The 14th feeding is when I’m supposed to make observations and report the data. If I don’t have actual sourdough starter by then, I’m going to abandon the project and try different methods—one using a bit of seed yeast (I haven’t picked a recipe yet), and one trying the Serious Eats method
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2020-05-08 06:59 pm
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Sourdough starter 2.0

7th-9th feedings, May 6-8

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2020-05-06 10:56 am
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Sourdough 2.0

6th feeding, May 5th

Pretty much the same as before, with less of the rubber smell from the whole wheat one. Whatever's colonized them is the same thing.

I pulled them out of the oven this morning as the oven light has burned out, so it's pretty much the same temp as the rest of the kitchen in the oven right now. We'll see if they get different things in them now. :) As of this morning, the smell for both was pretty much warm mayo with a hint of sourdough bread, so hey.
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2020-05-04 07:03 pm
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Sourdough 2.0

I’ve got my dates and feedings off somehow. I know it’s the 5th feeding and May 4th, although for some reason I thought it was May 4th yesterday. I’ll go back and attempt to re-date, but don’t guarantee consistency.

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2020-05-03 06:21 pm
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Sourdough 2.0

3rd feeding, May 2nd
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2020-05-01 05:20 pm
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Sourdough starter 2.0

Just gave them the second feeding.

2nd feeding, May 1st
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2020-05-01 09:29 am
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Sourdough 2.0

Declared the old stuff dead, tossed it. And then of course ran across a website that claimed sometimes you get a period of several days where it looks dead but it's not; it's just swapping out bacteria or something. Whatever!

(As per the previous batch: I'm following a specific protocol laid down by a citizen science group. Do feel free to make comments or suggestions, but I won't follow them for this batch because I need to stick to the protocol for reporting data.)

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2020-04-26 03:10 pm
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Sourdough starter

Project for Wild Sourdough, a citizen-science enterprise. Disclaimer: while I welcome your comments and observations, I won't be following any suggestions until after the 2 weeks (or 14 feedings, whichever comes first) because I need to follow the protocol that the project calls for.

Feeding 5
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edit: D.Va ninja'ed up onto the counter--there's 2 levels to the counter, and she was on the higher part that faces the living room, not the food-prep surface--so I let her smell the spoon I used to stir the funky white flour starter. She sniffed it curiously, but was way more interested in the drain in the sink as I rinsed starter off the spoon. She's fascinated by drains.
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2020-04-25 04:53 pm
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Sourdough starter

Project for Wild Sourdough, a citizen-science enterprise. Disclaimer: while I welcome your comments and observations, I won't be following any suggestions until after the 2 weeks (or 14 feedings, whichever comes first) because I need to follow the protocol that the project calls for.

Feeding 4
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2020-04-24 05:49 pm
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Sourdough starter

I've participated in a couple of home science experiments/data-gathering projects for the Public Science Projects outfit. (Your Wild Life and Showerhead Microbiome, if you're curious.)

Last week they sent out a new one, Wild Sourdough, where you make a sourdough starter following their instructions and after two weeks you take some measurements, make some observations, and report back to them.

They're interested in what different starters in different areas of the country (and maybe world?) do, as the strains of yeast in the air are different everywhere. They're also interested in data from starters made with different flours, and starters placed inside and outside the house. I chose not to put any outside the house because I don't want tomcats spraying the jars (there's no good place I can keep cats away and also leave it exposed to the air), but we do have white and whole wheat flour, so I did that.

Note that while I'm sure lots of you are experienced with sourdough starters and I welcome your comments and observations, I won't be following any suggestions until after the 2 weeks (or 14 feedings, whichever comes first) because I need to follow the protocol that the project calls for. They want data, even if it fails.

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The most important question of all: WHAT ARE WE GOING TO NAME THE STARTERS IF THEY SURVIVE? Keeping in mind that I will never beat the one dude on Metafilter who named his Mikey D the Yeastie Boy.