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telophase ([personal profile] telophase) wrote2007-09-25 08:48 pm

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Inexplicably, not one of you guys picked up on the footnote I left in the Giant Gin Post that read:
* I've read several stories so far in Strange Tales from a Chinese Studio by Pu Songling that deal with fox lovers who have a genuine attachment to their lovers but who also, at the same time, are slowly killing their lovers because every time they sleep with them, they draw away part of their life essence, as Taoist thought has it. [...] One is even a gay relationship, which is quite interesting, and would make a good yaoi manga. Hot mansecks! Lovers killing each other even as they make love! Reincarnation! Godawful puns made possible in the English language since the characters are named Huang and Wang, which I keep reading as Hung and Wang! Suicide! Corrupt officials! Drugs! Bisexuality! Date rape! Crossdressing! Bad poetry! And all in ten pages!
So as a result of the OVERWHELMING TIDE OF INDIFFERENCE inexplicably shown by my f-list, who would normally jump on this like a ferret on meth, I have experimented with not only an OCR program to translate the scans into readable text, but with InDesign to lay it out, and present you with...

Temporarily down, as I discovered I was missing a page that I SWEAR WAS THERE WHEN I UPLOADED. Back up!

Cut Sleeve, (PDF approx. 350 KB) from Pu Songling's Strange Tales from a Chinese Studio, originally published in the 17th century.

It contains the text of the tale, plus the translator's notes explaining the references as well as putting forth why he thinks the bad poetry at the end is a parody of neo-Confucian prudery, and a list of references the poem is making.
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[personal profile] chomiji 2007-09-26 02:17 am (UTC)(link)


Heh, she's complaining that we found the Gin et al. discussion even more interesting than an authentic Chinese supernatural yaoi tale ... never satisfied, this one ... .



The story seems like a lot of fun, but I think maybe some text is missing? For example, p. 3 ends with the words " ... I know you are on friendly terms with Dr Qi. Would you please ask him for one on my behalf?’" and the next page picks up apparently in mid-sentence: " ... and clasped his hands together in a gesture of appreciation." This might be an artifact of my elderly Mac PDF reader, but you might want to check that out .. similar things occur between other pages as well.



[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Damn, looks like I'm missing a page there. Phooey. Will go see what I can do. :)

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yay! It's not a page, just a paragraph. :D Probably due to the conversion to PDF. Will have a corrected version up soonish.
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[personal profile] chomiji 2007-09-26 02:31 am (UTC)(link)


OK, then, let me tell you where I found similar issues:



pp. 4-5

pp. 5-6

pp. 8-9

pp. 9-10



(I know, so picky ... .)



chomiji: Chibi of Akira from Samurai Depper Kyo, looking abashed, with the caption My Bad (Akira-sorry)

[personal profile] chomiji 2007-09-26 02:32 am (UTC)(link)


Uh oh ... .



Lemme check this one out ...


[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I caught those - like an idiot I hadn't noticed that the text was overflowing the frame. XD So I played with the spacing on them, because there was no way I was laying that entire thing out again.
chomiji: Yukimura from Samurai Deeper Kyo, smiling and clapping his hands. Caption: Happiness (Yuki-happy)

[personal profile] chomiji 2007-09-26 02:34 am (UTC)(link)


Ahhh, this one looks good. Thanks! (That was quick!)


[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, took me two seconds to figure out the problem - oops, there's a little red overflow box at the bottom of all these pages! I don't think I have the chops to make it as a professional layout artist quite yet. XD

(Ideally I'd have figured out how to make the text overflow onto the next pages automagically and put it all in at once, but I had the pages all in separate files due to the OCRing anyway, so I just went with separate pages.)
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[personal profile] chomiji 2007-09-26 02:51 am (UTC)(link)


It's been a way long time since I've used any real layout software ... I think it was still Pagemaker or something when I did. You had to label each frame as to which file it was supposed to contain, and weird things happened if you did them in the wrong order ... . The newsletters I've done in recent years were simple enough to kludge with MS Word.


[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
I was able to do the comics on InDesign, but they didn't involve placing text. :) Well, I did place text on a few pages in back, but completely forgot what I did to make it flow. Ah well.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
In my defense, I'm not through the arc yet and didn't read the post for SPOILERZ. More importantly: THANK YOU.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
:D I've re-uploaded it, as there were errors in the first copy.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
That shit is insane. Reminded me a lot of The Fox Woman, though.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a whole genre of these randomly weird Chinese stories, and a tradition stretching back for centuries. It's fascinating.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
I watch too many chinese dramas to think about that story without my brain going places i'd rather it didn't.

BTW, Togari was good and has been posted on.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
:)

Yeah - I saw it, but havne't had a chance to comment yet. :D

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
just letting you know it's good since you asked for feedback

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! :D

[identity profile] frostedelves.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
OMG POEM.

<3

That was beautiful. Thank you for sharing. I'm still thinking "One-Eyed General!" to myself every few seconds and snickering.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
Leading the charge to the rear gate of the barracks, no less! XD

[identity profile] rayechu.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. I am really tempted to print and show this to my Chinese history professor. His dissertation was on male same sex relationships in ancient China.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Cool! He probably knows it already, in that case. XD just don't get me in trouble for distributing it, plzkthnx

[identity profile] rayechu.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
I was hoping he did know about it, as I have some questions about the cut sleeve thing and some other things. I promise I would never reveal where I got it from XD

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
No prob! And let us know! XD

[identity profile] rabican.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
Awww, this is why we love you. XD

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Because I supply you with your RDA of PURE HISTORICAL LITERARY CRACK? XD
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[identity profile] buymeaclue.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] nihilistic_kid is reading that right now--it sounds hilarious.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-26 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Best poem in the history of ever! XD
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[identity profile] sub-divided.livejournal.com 2007-09-27 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
COMPLETE AND UTTER CRACK. XDXDXD I'm still laughing.

Thank you!

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-09-27 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
See, there's a loooong history of crack!fic in Asia! Manga/manhua/manhwa make so much more sense when seen in that light!