Poll answers

[telophase]

These are the answers to the poll here about manga vs. manhwa vs. manhua etc. I'd advise not looking at them until you answer the poll. otherwise it'll mess up the results. :D





Number 1: - Chinese - Ardour by Wu Rou Xuan. Image via telophase.

Number 2: - Japanese - Baku by MIZUKI Hakase. Image via sub_divided.

Number 3: - Korean - Beat by Lee Young Hee. Image via octopedingenue.

Number 4: - Korean - Ciel by Rhim Ju-Yeon. Image via lady_noremon.

Number 5: - Chinese - Clair de Lune by Fanny Shen. Image via telophase.

Number 6: - Korean - Comic by Ha, Shi Hyun. Image via octopedingenue.

Number 7: - Chinese - Comic Dream by Huei-Yuan Chen. Image via telophase.

Number 8: - Japanese - Darling I Love You by MAMAHARA Ellie & IOKA Noeru. Image via lady_noremon.

Number 9: - Korean - I Wish by Hyun Ju Suh. Image via lady_noremon.

Number 10: - Japanese - Mainichi Seiten! by SUGANO Akira (artist), NINOMIYA Etsumi (author). Image via sub_divided.

Number 11: - Japanese - Penguin Revolution by TSUKUBA Sakura. Image via sub_divided.

Number 12: - French - Pink Diary by Jenny. Image via telophase.

Number 13: - Korean - Queen's Knight by Kim Kang Won. Image via rayechu.

Number 14: - Chinese - Ravages of Time by Chan Mou. Image via telophase.

Number 15: - Japanese - The Story of Beijing Opera by Ueda Hiroshi. Image via telophase.

Number 16: - Japanese - Tokyo Renaikitan by Saekurako Gokurakuin. Image via lady_noremon.

Number 17: - French - Yukiko's Spinach by Frédéric Boilet. Image via telophase.

Number 18: - Japanese - Vampire Game by Judal. Image via rayechu.

Number 19: - Korean - Vanilla Ice by Kim Woo Hyun. Image via lady_noremon.

Number 20: - Japanese - Vinland Saga by YUKIMURA Makoto. Image via sub_divided.

Number 21: - Thai - Tom Yum Goong by (I couldn't find the artist or author on this one. It's a manga version of the Tony Jaa movie.). Image via telophase.


Number 22: Duh.

Comments

[greenapple2004.livejournal.com]

Wow, that was harder than I expected. I had to really avoid cheating by looking at how the balloons were oriented, and you almost got me with Penguin Kakumei and Vinland (I recognized the latter the second time I looked at it, but all those panels totally said "French!" to me. ;-)), and I was confused by the Thai/French/Chinese shonen. I think I picked wrong eventually on Tokyo Renaikitan, which looked Japanese to me, but amateurish (lo and behold! It is. She has gone on to a lucrative career in very porny boys' love), so I was mean and went with Korean.

I have odd feelings about this, though. While I was glad it was as hard as it was for me to pick out the Manhwa, since I admit to being jaded by some of the crap we've had to review from Korea, it's noticeable to me that you have to pick early, odd or obscure works, or only-fair Japanese stuff (Penguin Kakumei) to really make it a challenge. You get some superstars (I recognized Rhim Ju-Yeon right away), and mid-grade artists kind of look similar no matter what country you're from, but it was only when people stepped outside of genre that I got really lost. It shows the difference between a massive mature, 50-year-old industry, and a much smaller, younger one (and if we'd had more than one page, I'm sure there would have been clear storytelling/flow differences--I was already judging use of body language, the Beijing Opera one being the best example of that).

I look forward to seeing what other people thought, though! I've looked at a *lot* of comics in the last few years, so I wonder if the lay person catches the same stuff I do.

[kyuuketsukirui.livejournal.com]

I just saw this friendsfriendsing, but what an interesting poll! I looked through all of them on the poll first, though I didn't take it as I had no strong feelings about any of them except #8, which I thought might be Japanese because the style looked very familiar. As it turns out, back when I was reading a lot of Be Boy and other monthly yaoi mags, I read quite a bit of Mamahara Ellie, so that would be why! I also thought maybe the more realistic one (um, #17) was Chinese, as the girl looks very Chinese to me, but was obviously dead wrong there.

My main thought looking at all of these was that they were kind of amateurish. :p But it makes sense, cause obviously picking stuff by really well-known artists would be a bad idea.

The main thing I notice with American manga-style comics is the amateurishness. It never looks quite right. I always put it down to just not enough familiarity with the style. Kids in Japan (and other Asian countries) are raised with that style, but here it's still unfamiliar, and it usually shows. Which is not to say that I don't see a ton of crap manga from Japan, especially from the mags that publish first-time artists, but there's a higher percentage of people who've got a better grip on it (including many amateurs).

[coffeeandink.livejournal.com]

I got 10 right, which means ... I recognized some of the ones I got right and cheated. And haven't seen any Thai or Chinese comics, and not many French.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_ri/]

I did pretty well I think (I only recognized Vinland Saga and Queen's Knight). Never seen a Thai or French manga before, so it was difficult when I didn't have the feeling something was Japanese or Korean. The only Chinese manga I've ever read are titles by Selena Lin, so I tended to choose the cute shoujo type ones to be Chinese, and I was mostly right there...

[tammylee.livejournal.com]

AHAHAH!
I can't remember what I picked but it doesn't look like I got many right!

I think it's a good lesson in style.

[tentopet.livejournal.com]

I was dumb and thought they were all trick questions so I barely chose "manga". But I got 8 right; I'm proud!

Heh, reminds me in a way of www.alllooksame.com

[maxineofarc.livejournal.com]

I'm either the worst art history major or the worst manga reader in the universe, because to be perfectly honest, none of them looked particularly distinctive to me in any way. I could have seen any of them coming out of any of those countries. The text balloons didn't even help me. :P

[sub-divided.livejournal.com]

Just went back and re-submitted the poll and-

I can believe I didn't recognize Ravages of Time! Grrr. Though that page in unique in only having head shots, so you can't see their manly muscled torsos.

Generally I thought manwha was very distinctive, but I had a tough time telling manua and manga apart. This is partially because I couldn't ignore the size/orientation of speech bubbles, but also because it looks like older manga. I couldn't tell whether it was Chinese or just from the eighties.

I decided the painterly one was French because the French are Artsy, and that the last one was Thai because it looked different from the others, but I didn't get any of the other Thai/Korean comics.

[rachelmanija.livejournal.com]

Who got the most right?

I want to know how so many people figured out that the sole Thai one was Thai. I thought it was too, but I don't know why I thought that.

[oneiroelpida.livejournal.com]

I could mostly tell the Korean ones. Several tripped me up because they looked SO CLOSE to OLDER Japanese shoujo. (7 in particular). I recognized Queen's Knight and Vampire Game, so those were easy. XD The Chinese, Thai, and French ones totally threw me. I got some of them right, but only because I couldn't see certain ones as anything similiar to Japanese or Korean ones, but was wrong on others.

[oyceter]

That's so interesting! The Chinese ones totally threw me, particularly because to me, they look a lot like older Japanese shoujo. I could recognize some of the manhwa ones because of the lack of line differences in the jawline, but that was about it. Anything non-typically-shoujo totally threw me.

[deathbyfangirl.livejournal.com]

Found this poll through theotaku.com. It was quite the learning experience ^_^ I haven't read ANY Chinese, French, or Thai comics, so I definitely had to guess what those styles would look like (I did recognize Yukiko's Spinach however, since I'd seen some pages of it on a publisher's website). I think I got 13 right overall. oneiroelpida is right, #7 looks like old-style Japanese shoujo, so I was surprised to learn that it was Chinese. I really want to go read some of that manhua now, if I can find it.

[jameshanrahan.livejournal.com]

Woo! I got more of these than I thought I actually would and that sort of surprised me. I judged based on line quality and notions like "Chinese stuff looks like older manga because they are so behind like America is in what they find popular", "Korea uses less line weight and most of their stuff uses the strong jaw and big hands/prominent wrists you see in certain Japanese shojo", "French stuff will look more Western", "Thai stuff will look like Chinese stuff from ten years ago". And the MOST biased assessment, which was more a gut reaction than an actual articulated thought, was "Japanese stuff looks Japanese". Yeah no logic there and makes me feel like Racist Savant

[divalea.livejournal.com]

I got six right, and forgot to fill in two of them. I am sort of pleased I spotted one of French ones.

Wow...

[cosmo2389.livejournal.com]

I got nine right... By looking at page numbers (when there) and looking at the different styles (Korean has over-the-top eyes, French is simplified, etc.) I figured out nine... Well I guess that wasn't too bad... Had a great time doing it, and in the first picture there is a small amount of writing beside the girl standing, but I still got it wrong though... Well great quiz, hope you do another one sometime!