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telophase ([personal profile] telophase) wrote2015-09-08 09:46 am

ogle/oggle/oogle

Last week's poll on the pronunciation of "ogle" was illuminating (click 'pollage' tag to see it, as DW and LJ polls are separate). I'll admit that I always thought the "oggle" pronunciation was plain old mispronunciation but I did check the online OED before posting the poll, which gave "oggle" as a secondary pronunciation. I think it called it out as primarily American, but I can't double-check as the database isn't loading for me at the moment (and with the construction in the library I have no idea where the dictionaries are currently located!).

Anyway! As it's too confusing to work up a poll (and tedious to post it separately on DW and LJ since the two systems don't crosspost polls), I'm just asking you:
how do you pronounce "ogle" and where did you pick it up?
I'm "oh-gle," to rhyme with "mogul," and most likely got it from central Texas, where I grew up.


(I still think "oggle" and "oogle" are COMPLETELY WRONG but it's a free country and you are entitled to disagree. I mean, you'll still be wrong.)

EDIT: The OED is back up for me! Yup, it says "oggle" is American:
Pronunciation: Brit. /ˈəʊɡl/ , U.S. /ˈoʊɡ(ə)l/ , /ˈɑɡ(ə)l/
Although I suppose I should have added "uggle" to the poll as a fourth option!
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[personal profile] yhlee 2015-09-08 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think I've even ever heard "oggle" (I always said oh-gle), but then I'm in no position to cast stones because I mispronounced "politics" until the 6th grade. :p

[identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com 2015-09-08 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Ohgle-to-rhyme-with-mogul; born & raised in SE England with BBC-English-speaking parents.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2015-09-08 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
At least one of the other Brits replying pronounced it "oggle." It'll be interesting to see what the regional difference is.

[identity profile] grammarcommie.livejournal.com 2015-09-08 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm from Houston, which means sometimes we have our own pronunciations and/or vernacular (i.e. feeder roads). Though honestly, I'm not fully sure if my pronunciation of it as oggle is learned from the people around me or if that is one of those words that I read the first time and determined how it should sound in my head.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2015-09-08 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I weirdly have "oggle" associated with A-Kon and other fannish activities, which made me think for a bit that maybe it was a generational thing.

[identity profile] yhlee.livejournal.com 2015-09-08 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
To rhyme with "mogul," from Houston but also spent half my childhood in South Korea, so I expect my regional usefulness is limited!

[identity profile] tool-of-satan.livejournal.com 2015-09-08 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Rhymes with "mogul" and I mostly grew up near Washington DC.

[identity profile] wyrdness.livejournal.com 2015-09-08 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to be self-concious every time I say my "toggle" ogle now. ^^

I wonder if my pronunciation is an example of a "Yorkshire-ism" from my dad that's slipped in to my usually very standard/ Cambridgeshire accent. Sadly I don't have any Yorkshire family left to phone up and quiz about it and the internet really doesn't like providing alternative non-standard "BBC" accents for comparison. I know my mum says ogle to rhyme with "mogul", so if it's not from my dad I have no idea where I got it from!

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2015-09-09 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
MY WORK HERE IS DONE

If you want weird derivations of pronunciation, my mom and I have no idea where we got the pronunciation of our own *name* from! My grandparents pronounced it with a hard "tz" on the end, while we pronounce it with a soft "s" and since we never noticed this until my dad had died, we have no idea which way he said it.
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[personal profile] athenejen 2015-09-09 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
"oh-gul" to rhyme with "mogul."

Grew up in Minnesota in a Twin Cities suburb where most people pretty much have the standard middle-America broadcaster accent, though my parents are first-generation Chinese immigrants. And I read a lot of British children's books. And my accent has gotten to be even more of a jumble because I've also spent significant time in the Boston area and in California, and now in Austin.
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[personal profile] athenejen 2015-09-10 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
So. Hilariously, my younger brother is here visiting (same background, though stayed in Minnesota for much longer and has spent the last few years in the Chicago area), and I showed him your poll, and he was like, obviously it's like "toggle" and was shocked when I told him I pronounced it "oh-gul."