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Just finished watching Torchwood: Children of Earth. While I like that they try to make the characters face unthinkable choices, I hate that it's so frickin' contrived to get to that point.

Any of you posted on it earlier, please link me. I saw it go by a lot on the f-list, but didn't read any because I didn't want to be spoiled.

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Also, I hate that RTD seems to think that the only way to be edgy or show depth is to kill a character and force the others to react to it.

On the whole, though, some pretty good science fiction. Moreso than Torchwood is usually.

i have three torchwood posts under my torchwood (http://elfiepike.livejournal.com/tag/torchwood) tag, and the top two are related to COE--though i tried to be oblique, because i didn't want to spoil. i agree that it felt really contrived. it's funny, because i'm okay with contrived if it means i get a happy ending, but i have no time for contrived angst.

Would you consider yourself a TW fan? I ask because Children of Earth has been very polarizing in the fandom. My most recent posts are about Torchwood, so you can look at those.

I'd really consider myself more of a watcher than a fan. For me to consider myself fannish about a show, it's got to live in my head to some degree, which Torchwood never has.

ETA: I'm wondering if other people would draw the line elsewhere, though? I mean, I also wouldn't consider myself a fan of Top Chef, but I watch every episode and talk about it online. For me fannishness means that I've got to devote a certain amount of mental and imaginative energy to a show/book/comic outside of the direct experience of watching/reading it, which just doesn't happen with a lot of things I watch and read.

Edited 2009-08-02 15:22 (UTC)

To me a dividing line might be whether one is a member of one or more LJ communities devoted to a show.

That might be *a* sign - I think for a while there I was fannish about Yu Yu Hakusho and Inu-Yasha by my definition, but I don't think I ever joined any LJ comms. Mostly because my ideas about the characters don't always mesh with others' ideas, and I don't want the characters in my head to be muddied by other people's versions. (Which might be because I store them up in a mental database to be recycled and reused, serial numbers filed off, in my own stories? Hm. Maybe. Not sure.)

Yeah, comm membership might work as a possible sign, but I don't know how well it works as an indicator when it comes to the difference between 'normal' interest and fandom. I'm fannish about all sorts of series, but I rarely join LJ communities for them, and if I do it's usually only so I can access locked posts/material. The way most comms run tends to make them Not My Thing.

So what constitutes a dividing line for you? I think one line for me is when I actively begin pursuing reading fan fiction in a particular fandom.

*nod* Reading (or re-reading) fanfic is definitely one sign for me--and seeking out fanart and meta as well, in some cases. And with smaller fandoms where there isn't much going on, there's a feeling of "if this had more fannish activity, I would so be keeping up with all of it." I just tend to track down fic and discussion on a LJ-by-LJ basis, instead of getting them from communities.

(I'm not sure how well my behavior matches up with other fans, though, since I'm multi-fannish and go back to previous fandoms all the time--even if I'm not actively 'in' an old fandom at the moment I still count it as one of mine, because chances are I could wake up tomorrow and be madly in love with it again.)

You can see my thoughts/review here (http://akaihyo.livejournal.com/199775.html). Not happy with it for many of the reasons mentioned above but I detail some of the particular nits in my review.

Well I never posted on it in my journal, but I thought that COE was better than some Torchwood, but I felt it tried too hard to try to be good and the last part seemed too rushed and it upset me not because it was one of my favorite characters but because it just seemed thrown in and didn't make sense. Then the grand-son was over-kill and I was so disappointed by the whole thing by the end of it.

That was probably a ramble for my own sake, but otherwise I won't mention it to anyone lol

In conclusion, I think pregnate Gwen was gorgeous and I was jealous of Eve Myles' complexion through-out the whole thing >:

I hate when characters have to do something stupid to make the plot go where the writer wants it to. Given what they knew about the aliens, I can't see Ianto going in without protective breathing gear.

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