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telophase ([personal profile] telophase) wrote2009-05-06 10:07 pm

WOLVERINE!!!!!

Just came back from Wolverine, and I had a very enjoyable time. The movie was exactly what I expected, and I expected Wolverine's ass. I did not expect great scriptwriting, involving plot, great acting, or much of anything else.

The plot was, of course, Yet Another Marvel Retcon, but as the X-movieverse is a retcon of the comicverse, that's not surprising. And a trawl through Amazon.com to see what Weapon X stuff there is produced an approximate 2497358923749374 versions of Weapon X, Wolverine: Origis, and so on.

Color me so surprised. *rolls eyes*

I quit reading the X-books about the point where Magneto pulled the adamantium out of Wolverine's bones* (and started reading them about the time the first Weapon X storyline started) - anyone out there know how many different versions of his origin there currently are?


* Spurred, actually, by stupid writing involving Sabretooth, of all people. He's my favorite evil villain, because I showed up in the X-verse right when they were doing interesting things with his character, and then someone screwed it all up again, completely reversing all the character-building they'd done, I got disgusted, and I left. If anyone actually wants me to rant about that, let me know.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-07 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
They screwed up his interesting development AND THEY TOOK BOOM BOOM WITH HIM!!!
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2009-05-07 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
But Boom Boom showed up in Nextwave: Agents of H.A.TE. for the epic win!

maybe not in terms of characterization consistency, admittedly.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-07 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Fond as I am of Nextwave, I really wasn't fond of how she was portrayed. Mostly because she was a caricature of what people try to pass both her and Jubilee off as, and that they really aren't.
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2009-05-07 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
Totally valid point. I demand a Nextwave revival to perform a characterization rescue and also a return of the killer alien koalas.

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2009-05-07 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
In the movie, or in some comic?

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2009-05-07 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Comic. When I get to my rant, it will Explain All. Or at least all I can remember.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-08 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Comics. Post-Age of Apocalypse, they decided to make Sabretooth and Boom Boom/Boomer have a relationship that was basically "Wolverine and Jubilee, but if he was evil and then lobotomized and she mindlessly thought it made him perfect and would hear no ill of him*, and then became an unrecognizable Look At How I'm So Edgy And Badass And Untrusting character."

*This, admittedly, is arguably true of early Jubilee and Wolverine, save that the context there was that she was 13-15, literally had no one else for a while, and he was the kinda-asocial guy who was taking care of her and saving her and teaching her things and not killing people when she asked and treated her with a mixture of daughter/partner without really talking down to her. Which is different from being 17-20 and having a long history of knowing the guy as a murderer who tried to kill your friends and random innocents and was a terrorist.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2009-05-08 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'm writing up my Sabretooth rant right now. XD I didn't really meet Boom Boom before that story arc, so the bizarre little relationship between them was actually kind of interesting to me - her not being sure if he means what he says or if he's just playing her. And it would have been WAY MORE INTERESTING had they actually gone with that and made him kind of meaning it, instead of TOTALLY PLAYING HER.

Because when someone VOLUNTARILY COMMITS HIMSELF TO CUSTODY he is, naturally, going to break out as soon as he gets a chance to grab a hostage. ARG.

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2009-05-08 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Wolverine was canonically very good with teenage girls and children, amazingly not in a skeevy way.

In Claremont-era comics, he had a very close mentor-protegee relationship with Kitty Pryde, and also had a sweet one-shot in which an eight-year-old girl from the short-lived but cute Power Pack (a dying alien gave four siblings super-powers) finds him amnesiac, aphasic, and beat to hell, and they rescue each other.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2009-05-08 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
He seemed to be made for paternal and avuncular relationships. yet another of my narrative kinks

And judging by how many of the women he slept with ended up dead,* it's probably a Very Good Thing that he was able to have close familial relationships with women and girls that didn't get killed.



* OK, I only remember three, but two of them ended up dead so that's 66%!

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-09 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
I can only think of 3, too. No, 4. But the fourth also died. The one who lived is Yukio. The first time I saw her, I thought she was Storm's girlfriend.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-09 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. The only time I really find him interesting is his various mentor roles. And the totally non-skeevy way is a bonus! Though there was the one time he walked out nude in front of Jubilee and Kitty, but I try to block that from my memory.

I love Power Pack! Not that I've read any of it in years...