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telophase ([personal profile] telophase) wrote2008-07-14 01:33 pm
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Update on The Pearls

From page 2 of The Pearls
Burly, bearded, clad in armor, and fisting a stout war mace studded with steel spikes, Lord Vordachai was neither a prudent man nor one that any prudent thief would dare attack.
I ... don't think I'd attack him, either.*

A sentence or two later, peasants come out of their homes to incuriously watch Lord Vordachai and his men pass. Jokes about the above aside, I think perhaps "incurious" is not the way to describe people who come out of their houses to watch someone go by. I think maybe she meant "guardedly" or "blankly."

I haven't run across anything that obviously off in the rest of the chapter, but you'd think that the first few pages of the book would be given an especially careful line-by-line edit, wouldn't you?

Aside from that, the first chapter introduces Shadrael, our male protagonist, who is SO BADASS that when he was in the army, he GAVE UP HIS SOUL in an ARMY BET (and, presumably, gained some magical powers in return, which hasn't come up in more than passing yet). He CASTS NO SHADOW.

Lord Vordachai, sexual peccadillos aside, is a large shouty bearded man and probably should be envisioned as being played by Brian Blessed.

According to hints in the book that refer to "legions" and "imperial" this-and-that and a couple of other hints, I deduce this is really supposed to be sort of Roman or Byzantine in culture. However, the cover depicts (presumably) Shadrael wearing armor that to my untutored eye looks rather 15th century European, and the Lady Lea is dressed up to attend a Renaissance festival, in a long skirt and a corset and shirt vaguely reminiscent of depictions of Gypsies in the late 19th century. She is wearing a cloak whose edges do not meet in front of her, rendering it useless for warmth or protection, and which comes with built-in shoulder guards should she wish to participate in a spontaneous game of American football at any point during her abduction.

Note that in the cover, Shadrael's cloak and hair is billowing out dramatically, as is a banner in the background, while if you look at Lea's clothing and hair, she appears to be enclosed in a force field that does not allow for any movement of air at all. Perhaps she will asphyxiate soon.

The rest of Shadrael's troops appear to be left-handed, while he is right-handed. And just how phallic is that sword, after all?












* Word to the wise: if you do not know what it means, do not, under any circumstances, look up "fisting" at work, on a public computer, or with small children or squeamish family members in the room.
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[identity profile] buymeaclue.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Fisting a stout war mace...?

I am torn between ow and how?

I forced the link to your previous entry on [livejournal.com profile] tanaise, who countered with this: http://www.amazon.com/Sword-Ring-Chalice-Book/dp/0441007023/

"Two men. One is a prince of royal blood. The other is a half-breed, part human, part elf. But the part that is human is also royal.

"Two women. One is a princess, pampered and protected. The other lives in the forest, the leader of a band of rebels. She too has eleven blood.

"This is their story--the tale of love and hate, courage and cowardliness, and magic both dark and light..."

::boggles::

::not in a good way::

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd totally read something if someone had eleven blood, although I'd be wondering what the previous ten were. XD
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[identity profile] buymeaclue.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
::snerk:: I missed that entirely.

re: the cover...I guess it's remotely possible that the girl is forward and down enough to be out of the wind? Maybe? Though that doesn't explain what she's standing on, or that soldier levitating in the background...

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
And I know that wind can be unpredictable near sheer faces, but it seems a bit odd that his hair and cloak are billowing in a direction that would seem to indicate the wind was coming *from* the sheer rock face on the right.
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[identity profile] buymeaclue.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I was trying to pretend that maybe that wasn't a rock face so much as a boulder that was closer to the viewer than he is. But that may be putting more thought into it than the book really deserves. :-p

[identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess this is Chester's specialty?
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[identity profile] buymeaclue.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It's special, that's for sure...

[identity profile] fairest1.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I had to wonder about the 'how' aspect of that . . . I mean, unless the mace has a really weird design or the pronouns got switched up . . . *twitch*

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, my mind tends to correct the meaning so that the mace is doing the acting and not the acted upon, but that's JUST AS BAD.

[identity profile] fairest1.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a man that no one would dare approach or dare to do anything other than avert their eyes and find somewhere else to be. Not a romance hero.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Luckily, he's not the hero. He's the hero's brother. :D

[identity profile] fairest1.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
That still concerns me about his genetics and the circumstances of their upbringing.
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[identity profile] shiegra.livejournal.com 2008-07-15 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
v. fist·ed
1. To clench into a fist.
2. To grasp with the fist.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-15 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. We are all aware of the technical meaning.

However, we are also aware of the sexual slang, which is what we're all commenting on.
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[identity profile] shiegra.livejournal.com 2008-07-15 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
Obviously I haven't been on the internet long enough; my first thought wasn't the slang but, 'is that proper grammatical usage'? The comments on this page baffled me sufficiently that I looked it up.

Or maybe it was simply the absurdity of the image that kept my mind from leaping to the conclusion that is wrong in so many ways.

[identity profile] akaihyo.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, that armor is definitely 15-16th C European, though some of the helmets have a Roman Legion vibe going for them.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I looked at that breastplate and knew I expected to see pointy toes on the shoes. But I shall instead be picturing Roman legionnaires as I read, which I prefer anyway. XD

[identity profile] akaihyo.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds fair to me. I find the Romans endlessly fascinating.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
For some reason, the older I get the more I like them. :) I used to think they were boring, until I was doing a semester abroad in Wales and took a British Archaeology course, part of which covered the Roman invasion, and got to go to Roman sites nearby and learn about villas. And now I have a passion for ancient engineering and technology, like the legions did and had.

[identity profile] akaihyo.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
"The Greek had the brains, the Romans had the drains" as one of my Professors put it (quoting one of his earlier students).

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Heee! So true! XD

[identity profile] badnoodles.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I've got to agree. Fisting a mace isn't very prudent at all.

[identity profile] wyrdness.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I read that as fisting a trout and it took me a moment to reprocess it.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
*dies laughing*

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that's certainly some interesting positioning if she turns around...

Yeah, definitely European armor, there.

I've seen that style of cloak a lot in covers and illustrations, though. Their version of a light jacket, maybe?

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Cloaks that don't meet in the front so that the costumes can be seen are a staple of fantasy movies. That annoyed the hell out of me throughout the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Just the lifelong brainwashing in me speaking, then.
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[personal profile] chomiji 2008-07-14 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)


Dare I ask how this book came into your possession? I mean, that cover alone is enough to send me running for the manga section.



I've noticed a tendency of authors of recent fantasies to (quite reasonably) decide that basing their worlds on Tolkien is Right Out, but they haven't yet figured out what it really means to base a world on a historical culture: they just sort of throw in chunks of something they remember reading in history class (or, even more likely, in someone else's book) and call it a day.


[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually purchased it in the bookstore. :) I read the back and decided it would either be readable because I have a Thing for the badass warrior dude with inner mushiness, or it would be hilariously bad enough that I could mock it on LJ.

I think maybe the above sentence was worth the price of the book. (Okay, so I had $5 in Borders Bucks coming to me, so it's not like I paid full price. XD)

The book itself hasn't been obviously out of period so far, just the cover painting. We'll see if the book manages to stay out of that morass. XD
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[identity profile] estara.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone played by Brian Blessed has to be great! He should have been in more Blackadders than the first one *sighs*

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup! I am, perhaps, more fond of this particular character now that I envision him as Brian Blessed.

OTOH, there are hints that he actually cares about his subjects and that this won't be a stark Good vs. Evil story, which I hope carry through because murky shades of grey are way more interesting than black and white. :)

[identity profile] catystorm.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
This is written by the person who wrote the Alien Chronicles. Wow, I used to love those books, overdone Moses retelling and all.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't read anything else by her, although I've seen her books around.

[identity profile] maxineofarc.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
This is being played perfectly straight, isn't it? How?

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
So far. I'm hoping for manga-level emo intensity, eventually.

[identity profile] fairest1.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I can buy the part about selling his soul in an army bet. I once bought a classmate's soul for five bucks when they were short on cash for lunch.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I knew a guy in college who lost his on a basketball shot. His buddy gave him three requirements to get it back, one of which was to drink an entire six-pack of beer, and another to go out on a date with a girl. His habit of wandering up to any woman he knew with a mumbled "would you go on a date with me so I can get my soul back?" didn't get him too many takers. XD

[identity profile] fmanalyst.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you sure that isn't Judd Apatow's next movie?

[identity profile] ebony14.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
fist
–noun
1. the hand closed tightly, with the fingers doubled into the palm.
2. Informal. the hand.
3. Informal. a person's handwriting.
4. Printing. index (def. 8).
–verb (used with object)
5. to make (one's hand) into a fist.
6. to grasp in the fist.


Not the most well-known definition, certainly, but viable. Of course, given the way that ficsnark goes, no one will let that stand in the way of a perfectly good snark. It sounds like a terrible book in any case.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem is, if anyone conversant with the less-savory version of that reads it, it's likely to bring up images the author didn't intend.

Not saying she does or doesn't know of that definition, just that with all the hands a book goes through to market, somebody ought to have looked at it and said "Uh, guys...?"

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2008-07-15 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
I had not realized that they built rectums into war maces.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-15 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
It's a very special kind of mace.
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[identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
That's not the only orifice that might be in place for that verb... *koffs*

*facepalms*

[identity profile] seawolf10.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Oy. This is why all authors should keep up with current slang -- and have either a working vocabulary or a good thesaurus.

If you want good fantasy, pick up stuff by George R.R. Martin, China Mieville, Lawrence Watt-Evans, Harry Turtledove, and Simon R. Green.

If you want specific titles, please ask. I'll gladly recommend some.

Re: *facepalms*

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'm the one who reviewed Death Trance at length: what makes you think I'm looking for good? XD

(I have actually not been able to sustain focus long enough to get through any book more complex than a YA novel or light '80s fantasy in the past few years, so I'm not currently looking for anything like that.)

Re: *facepalms*

[identity profile] seawolf10.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Shame about the focus problem. You mentioned liking moral shades of grey, and all the authors I recommended have that in spades.

(Although Watt-Evans' most recent stuff might be short enough to keep your attention on it -- maybe 250 pages per book. Look for "The Wizard Lord," and "The Ninth Talisman." And if you like a bit of humor -- there are mind-controlled squirrels.)

Re: *facepalms*

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Coincidentally, I've actually been picking up some of his recently. I just read "The Misenchanted Sword" and got most of the way through "The Unwilling Warlord" before I got distracted by something shiny and put it down and forgot to pick it back up again. Yeah, that's right about the level of light fantasy I've been most capable of recently - and I've been craving generic medievaloid questish fantasy, too (obviously, since all the hot stuff right now is urban fantasy) so they hit the spot. XD

Hmm...

[identity profile] seawolf10.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Let me make your life and reading habits easier:

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3778378/Sci-fi_and_Fantasy_Library

(Mind you, some of these digital versions appear to have been typed up by drunken chimpanzees.)

If you're looking for humorous questish fantasy, also try L. Sprague de Camp. That link has most of his short stories and fantasy novels. "Two Yards of Dragon" and "The Emperor's Fan" are probably closest to what you're looking for in a short story, and the "Reluctant King" novels should meet your criteria as well.

Come to think of that, you might like "The Hardwood Pile." Fantasy in rural New York State, with a wood spirit who's EXTREMELY unhappy about having her tree turned into boards.

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And here's one of de Camp's poems, which might also qualify as "questish." Consider it a teaser. ;-)

"REWARD OF VIRTUE"

Sir Gilbert de Vere was a virtuous knight;
He succored the weak and he fought for the right
But cherished a goal that he never could sight:
He wanted a dragon to fight.

He prayed all the night and he prayed all the day
That God would provide him a dragon to slay;
And God heard his prayer and considered a way
To furnish Sir Gilbert his prey.

And so, to comply with Sir Gilbert's demand
But having no genuine dragons to hand
God whisked him away to an earlier land,
With destrier, armor, and brand.

And in the Cretaceous, Sir Gilbert de Vere
Discovered a fifty-foot carnosaur near.
He dug in his spurs, and he leveled his spear
And charged without flicker of fear.

The point struck a rib, and the lance broke in twain
The knight clapped a hand to his hilt, but in vain:
The dinosaur swallowed that valorous thane
And gallant Sir Gilbert was slain.

The iron apparel he wore for his ride,
However, was rough on the reptile's inside.
The dinosaur presently lay down and died,
And honor was thus satisfied.

But Gilbert no longer was present to care;
So pester not God with your wishes. Beware!
What happens when Heaven has answered your prayer
Is your, and no other's, affair!

[identity profile] ninja-tech.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
*laughs at footnote* Oh my...*continues laughing*