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telophase ([personal profile] telophase) wrote2008-05-13 07:05 pm

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Can people go to http://www.projectbluerose.com/ and tell me if the link to "Project Blue Rose: Human Touch" shows up for you under "Pages". And what your browser/OS is. It's showing up for me in Firefox but not IE on XP and I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY.

ETA: It bizarrely seems to be propagating. Weird.

ETA2: I manage this site with Wordpress, and thus validation errors, etc. are not really under my control. You can stop telling me about them. If they're causing a problem, I'll switch to another Wordpress theme at some point.

The problem seems to be that my Wordpress install is seemingly propagating changes I make to layout, instead of reflecting it instantly. No, I don't understand.

ETA3: Not needed, at least temporarily, as I found an updated version of the Wordpress theme I'm using and shall shortly be installing it to see if it plays better with Wordpress 2.5.1.

[identity profile] elfiepike.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I'm on the same browser and OS, and yup, hey! Doesn't show up! (I know, useful comment, right.)

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Same here, and it's working in Firefox.

[identity profile] mothoc.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
It does *not* show up for me. Firefox 2.0.0.8, OS X 10.5.2.

Additionally, I can not find any mention of the word "human" in the page source.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
This is just INSANE

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Can you try again? It's showed up for some people after a while.

I don't understand why it would need to propagate, but...

[identity profile] mothoc.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, it's appearing now

[identity profile] mscongeniality.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I can't see it either.

Firefox/2.0.0.14
Windows XP
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[personal profile] kate_nepveu 2008-05-14 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Opera 9.2, Windows XP, and no, not on the page or in the source.
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[personal profile] kate_nepveu 2008-05-14 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
There now!

[identity profile] keelieinblack.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, it's showing up fine for me? Firefox/2.0.0.14, Windows XP.
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[personal profile] oyceter 2008-05-14 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Weird. Showing up for me, XP, IE 6.0. But IE is giving me a "Done but with errors on page" message in the status bar. Hrm. Do you think it's being grumpy because the classes in that list are out of order? Does it work if you swap Human Touch with Spindrift?

[identity profile] dremiel.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'm using Safari and it's right there, clear as day.

[identity profile] rilina.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Showing up for me in Firefox on OS 10.5.

[identity profile] lanisatu.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
The link appears if I click on "Project Blue Rose" under pages/ projects only (in Firefox 2, Mac OS 10.4). It shows up on your index in Safari 3 (Mac OS 10.4).

Your code has several errors when run through W3C's markup validator (http://validator.w3.org/). I've used the validate by direct input, and it has found 17 errors on multiple pages. You might want to look at this, as there are certain errors that can make things disappear inconsistently across browsers. When it validates, see if the problem still occurs.

Good luck.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Just to make one correct I feel VERY VERY strongly about:

It's not MY code.

I'm using Wordpress to maintain the site, as the footer notes, so all blame rests squarely on their shoulders. (Or on the shoulders of the people who wrote the plugin, if a plugin is causing it.) Precisely because I got sick and tired of having to spend way too much time making my code work cross-browser. And this may be heresy for one who is a professional webmaster as I am but: I don't care if it doesn't validate as long as it looks the same and works the same across the majority of the major browsers.

ETA; Er, sorry, that came across more strongly than I intended it to. Both Paypal and the latest version of Wordpress are making me exceptionally cranky today and I seem to be taking it out on others unwarrantedly.

But I found an update for the theme I'm using, so I'm going to install that and see if everything improves.

[identity profile] lanisatu.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry if what I wrote was misleading. I wasn't trying to accuse you of anything. I should have said "the code has errors" which is what I meant.

I don't know which parts are yours and which are Wordpress, but there may be an error that the W3C validator could find for you that could shed some light on the cause of the problem. And then you'll know if it's something you can edit or if it's something controlled by Wordpress.

I've worked with code generated by an outside source that I can't change before, and I know there's only so much that can be done to make sure it works. And I know it's not always possible or necessary to validate completely. But I suggested you take a look at what W3C is calling "errors" because, if you're getting strange results, it may help you pinpoint the root of the problem. I generally find it helpful in that respect.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
None of the code is mine. I manage it behind the scenes from the Wordpress dashboard, which hides the code from me unless I want to go in and modify it, which I haven't.

And at the moment I've updated the theme, which changed the majority of the code anyway, and caused the things that were going bad before to work. :)

[identity profile] lanisatu.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, I see. I haven't used Wordpress before, so I'm not sure of how it's structured. I edited a Blogger template before, which was pretty odd (certain parts of the Blogger code are hidden and uneditable). I thought it might be somewhat similar.

Anyway, I'm glad to hear it's fixed :)

[identity profile] flamika.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Shows up perfect for me on Firefox 2.0.0.14 using Mac OSX. ^^

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Are we open for pre-orders, or shall I hold off the announcement?

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
I'll be emailing you within half an hour for that - I'm finishing up the Fishes page now. :)