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telophase ([personal profile] telophase) wrote2007-07-08 03:22 pm

Hah!

Officially, as of today, forty pounds down. A lot to go: note that I am not actually giving you the numbers yet. XD Maybe I'll do that when I reach my first major goal.

And now for something I'd been threatening to write for a while, about how I'm doing this with, surprisingly, next to no pain.



There's two parts, food and exercise:

Food

First, I'm not dieting. A diet, by its very nature, is something temporary and once you go off it and back to your normal habits, the weight comes back. Diets don't work and they tend to be restrictive, which leads to feelings of deprivation, which leads to snapping and overeating.

What I'm doing is figuring out what normal eating is for me, and doing that.

I'm not giving up any of the foods I like. I'm not even forcing myself to restrict the number of times I eat them: any time I walk into the kitchen, the option is open to eat anything in there, or to get in the car and go buy anything I want. You have no idea how liberating this is.

I am watching the amounts of what I eat, and I do that by setting a calorie target and logging everything I eat. This works for me because I am not prone to eating disorders. Obsessive logging of calories is very bad if you have any tendency to an eating disorder - don't do it if you think you are. I know there's a set of people out there who oppose any sort of food logging, who say that if you listen to your body and eat what it wants, you'll eat the right amount of a variety of foods. Sorry, no. If I do that without paying attention, my body pretty much eats Chik-Fil-A for lunch and Schlotzsky's for dinner and has 2 or 3 Cokes and almost no vegetables whatsoever. I have to reset what my body thinks it wants before I can do that - and it's working, because I tend to eat smaller portions now. The days I go without logging because I'm out of town or something, and come back and fill them in, I find that I'm still fairly close to the calorie limits. I've also worked all my favorite foods into this. I'd not follow any diet that kept me from eating nachos, or Tuna Helper, or butter-delivery systems potatoes and artichokes.

Secondly, eating has nothing to do with morality. I do not feel guilty for eating over my calorie limit. I do not say I am bad when I have chocolate or go to the snack-bar/cafe thing upstairs in the middle of the afternoon and get a snack. Doing that every so often is normal eating. Normal eating is not eating the same amount of calories every day, day in and day out. If I go over one day, I know I'll probably be under another day - it all evens out. One the forums I read on the site where I log my calories - I don't post there because I'd have to succumb to the urge to bitch-slap many of these people and that would Not Be Good - it drives me insane that people beat themselves up over eating 200 calories more than their targets. That's the diet mentality, and that's why they go back to their original habits and regain weight or never lose any. What I eat has nothing to do with how "good" or "bad" I am, or whether I'm a failure or a success.

I'm also going the gourmet path: I know people who fill their kitchens with diet foods and low-fat foods and so on, but I'd really rather eat a small amount of something excellent than a large amount of something kinda nasty. This is where I do actually do a bit of bargaining: I can eat as much dark chocolate as I want. It's just got to be the really expensive Scharffen Berger stuff that cost $9.95 for 10 ounces. I can eat as much buttered popcorn as I wish. I've just got to make it from scratch in a pan on the stove instead of using microwave popcorn.

There are times I decided not to watch what I ate at all. When I have migraines, often the amount of pain corresponds to my hunger, so I'll eat whatever I damn well want on those days, because overeating for one to three days won't do a damn thing to me in the long run. Also, when I'm out with friends or at a convention, I don't watch what I eat. I'm there to enjoy myself, and food is part of that. I don't go out with friends very often, so it works for me - if my social life were more full, I'd probably change this guideline a bit. :) At conventions, I eat a full breakfast because otherwise I have a tendency to forget to eat at all and trigger migraines - eating too much is way better than a migraine.

Family holidays, also, I refuse to watch what I eat. I'm there to enjoy the day and my family, not to worry about what I put into my mouth. I spent too many holidays with relatives worrying about what they're eating - and, I note, still steadily gaining weight each year :D - to do that. I'm not going to ruin the day for myself or anyone else by worrying about unimportant things, and one day's or even one weekend's food intake is unimportant.

I am also, at the moment, not worrying too much about the amount of fat and various nutrients I eat. This is because that's a major change, and I know I can't do more than one major change to my diet at a time without feeling stressed out and deprived. Once I get to a point where I feel I'm capable of that, I'll start paying more attention to it. Note that I also have good genes when it comes to blood pressure, cholesterol, etc., and I know that mine are all within good levels because I have to get my blood tested periodically for the meds I'm on. :) If I were on the verge of heart disease, I would be taking a very different approach.

And speaking of the meds: getting diagnosed with AD/HD and being put on medication for that did amazing things. AD/HD is, basically, a dysfunction in the area of the brain called the executive center, which controls things like long-term planning, impulse control, motivation and reward processes. (Pretty good summary.) You can see where this feeds into eating and exercising - when you can't control impulses, it's easier to eat more, grab that Coke instead of the diet soda or water, make a snap decision to say "Yes" when someone offers you food, etc. And it's much easier to say "I don't want to do this today; I'll do it tomorrow" - it's not a matter of not wanting, but more a matter of can't with this condition. When there's a hiccup in the motivation/reward process, your brain cannot tie the motivation for not eating this thing or for exercising today with the reward of feeling and looking better down the road. It's not perfect - I've desperately needed to clean the fridge out for three weeks already and still haven't made myself do it, for example, but I've been able to hit near my calorie target every day for the past three weeks, which would have been impossible to do last year.

And one more thing: I don't eat too little. And I (usually) eat back the calories I've expended in exercise. Which means that even though my calorie target is 1600, I tend to eat 1600-1800 a day, because I expend somewhere around 150-200 calories on exercise. 40 pounds in 27 weeks - that's averaging a pound and a half a week, even when eating an amount of calories that Conventional Wisdom says should make me gain weight. This is because you need a certain amount of calories just to live - to keep your brain working, to make your heart beat, to make your lungs inflate. For most women, that's somewhere around 1200/day, higher for most men. If your total intake - the food you've eaten minus your calories burned - is less than that, your body goes on alert and starts conserving energy and using fewer calories because it thinks there's a food shortage. The way to stop that happening is to eat enough, across the long term.

Exercise

A much shorter category. :D First, the AD/HD meds again: this is one of the reasons I've been able to exercise almost every day.

Secondly: not asking too much of myself. All I ask is 20 minutes on the bike, every day. That's just about the length of a half-hour TV show, minus commercials and credits, and is easy to do. I see people here and there who work out for hours a day, who put in lunch hours at the gym and who walk after work, who count the number of calories burned on gym equipment in the thousands at one session, and so on. (A) That's eating disordered behavior. (B) I got way better things to be doing with my time. I promised myself I'd never get into an exercise routine that lasted more than an hour a day unless I was training for something specific: i.e. a race, a competition, karate belt test: of course you train as much as you can, because there's a purpose beyond mere burning calories. (C) That's eating disordered behavior. Worth saying twice.

The optimum exercise recommendation for health is 30 minutes of aerobic exercise (as in brisk walking), 5 days a week, which is very close to my 20 min/7days schedule. More than that, and the results you get decline in comparison to the amount of effort you put in.

Third: toys. I can't just go out and walk, or whatever. I get bored easily (that AD/HD thing again). I need toys. The recumbent bike has been great, as has logging exercise times and distances and the LotR thing, and posting it to LJ.

Fourth: it has to be convenient for me. There's a weight room here in the apartment complex with machines, but that's not convenient, because I have to put on some sort of clothing that is fit to be seen in public (unlike at home where I just put on PJs or a stained tank top and pajama bottoms), and make sure that my hair isn't awful (which means on weekends taking a shower before I go exercise, which is Just Not Right), and so on. Having the bike at home works for me. I can't go out to a gym, either - I can have access to the campus gym for $5/month - because it's way too much effort. I'd have to bring gym clothes to work or rent a locker, then go find parking nearby (because I'm not walking back across campus when I'm tired out), and then I'd either have to take a shower there, meaning two showers in one day which I find ridiculous for daily life, or drive home all sweaty and icky.

And last but not least: another place I buck conventional wisdom is that I weigh myself several times a day. :D Again, if you're prone to eating disorders, this is BAD behavior. But with me, it means that I have a good idea of how much my weight fluctuates over a day and over a week. If I weigh 4 pounds more on Wednesday than I did on Sunday, it's not a big deal because I know I always see a drop around Friday and Saturday, no matter what I've done or eaten during the week.



Anyway, after aaaaall of that: losing weight doesn't make me a better person. It won't make me more popular (and I wouldn't want to be friends with anyone who wouldn't be friends with someone fat), it won't make me more confident (I got plenty of other insecurities, thankyouverymuch, and some of the most confident women I know are my size or larger), and it won't turn me into the Perfect Woman, because there's no such thing. All it does is make me smaller. :) I'm not interested in getting down to the weight that TV tells me I should be, or that the height/weight charts* and BMI indicators tell me I should be, I'm mostly interested in being a weight I feel comfortable with.


* Created in the 1930s and 1950s by insurance companies studying white, professional men, BTW, not women or people of color or people working lower-class jobs. The history of our obsession with weight is quite interesting and enlightening.


And now if you excuse me, I'm off to take a shower, attempt to clean out the fridge, and go to the grocery store. :)

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Go you, overall. That 20 mins/day I think makes a huge, huge difference.

[identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Figuring out what normal eating habits are is half the battle, I think. I went out for lunch yesterday and had the yummiest Japanese eggplant burger from Cheesecake Factory.

The problem? I very, very rarely eat burgers and even then, it's at a homestyle BBQ. The burger I ate yesterday had all the fixings... but it also had fancy cheese, fancy dressing, and a whole lot of oil.

Because my father required a super healthy diet due to a medical condition, I grew up (ever since I was 8 or so) on the very same super healthy diet. It's what my body's been trained to need and want. So, the burger yesterday? Really, really threw my body out of whack. It was good but I felt vaguely ill all day because my body isn't used to that kind of food. It wasn't until lunch today when I had simple spaghetti with simple marinara sauce and added mushrooms and mini meatballs that my body and stomach felt normal.
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[personal profile] scribblemoose 2007-07-08 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
God, that's so inspiring. *bookmarks* Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts on food and exercise. I think you're absolutely right. And it couldn't have come at a better time for me.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! :D

As far as I can figure, that 20 minutes/day (which, I admit, tends to be 5 or 6 days a week instead of 7, but my goal is 7) is what drives most of the weight loss. The 6 weeks or so before A-Kon, when I made the decision to lessen the amount of exercise and focus on getting Spindrift finished and art produced for the con* and ended up getting in only 2 or 3 days a week, I didn't gain any weight. My loss slowed, so I lost about 2 pounds during that time, but didn't stop. I think that was because I adjusted my eating slightly, so I was still totalling about 1500-1600 a day, just eating a bit less because I wasn't burning as much. That was a plan that worked, and I totally plan on doing that again if I need to. :) Having too many obligations to do per day stresses me the hell out, and knowing that I can adjust eating/exercising to compensate is a load off my mind.

* Deliberate decisions seem to work better for me then just not doing it and feeling guilty later; and it's easier to get back into the habit.
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[identity profile] estara.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
you're a really encouraging role model. I hope I can get there, too.

[identity profile] tokyoghoststory.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
as alaways, thank you much for the inspiration :D. supposedly i've lost some, but i don't check numbers ~_~. but my clothes have been getting looser and dear lord, i'm buying things i never thought i'd wear!

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Plus, you're journeying through the LOTR-verse and how cool is that?

And making that decision made a lot of sense, I think-- that way you didn't have the con and Spindrift as 'competition' when you knew you'd have less energy.

[identity profile] riofriotex.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
40 pounds in 27 weeks is awesome! You are so right that each person has to figure out what works individually.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
:D Yeah. What you grow up eating and are used to has a lot to do with it. I have this complex about drinking Coke because my mom was always trying to get me to lose weight as I was growing up*, so there was always a bottle of Coke and a bottle of Diet Coke in the fridge and I was not allowed to drink the Coke. So when I got out of the house and into college, by God I was grown up and I could drink Coke if I wanted to!

Which was, I think, a good part of the problem - once I worked out my average daily intake of food before I started doing this, and it was higher than I needed to maintain my weight by just about the amount of a can of Coke per day, which was fairly enlightening and one of the reasons I'm averaging about three glasses of Coke a month now, instead of 5-6/week.

I've noticed that although my fat intake is still higher than it ought to be, I tend to get sick a lot more on days when it's really high, so I think my body is gradually adjusting to a slightly-lower-fat diet. This is a trend I hope continues. :)



* Which wasn't necessary, really: it was all puppy fat. My senior year of highschool, it all migrated to my boobs and butt but the damage had been done by then and all I could see when I looked at my 130-pound, size-12 self in the mirror was this fat, hideous thing. I should probably thank the ADHD for making it impossible to regulate my eating and exercise, otherwise I might have gone down the eating-disorder path.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! :D I'm happy if it helps you. :D

[identity profile] kintail.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Go you! The 40 pounds is something in itself to be proud of, but I think that making a lifelong healthy change -- regardless of what fractions results the scale can measure -- is an even bigger deal.

You are inspiring, and I'm not just saying that: I've been increasing my own exercise levels steadily, and seeing your updates has been a part of what's encouraging me to do that. I'm up to doing at least one thing (20 min walk and/or 20 min of yoga, and I've just started a t'ai chi class) every day most weeks!

I'm going to check out the ADHD info, because although I don't think I have it, I think I have a lot of the same problems due to what one doctor diagnosed as Post Traumatic Syndrome (a completely different thing from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, despite the confusing name) which is basically a catch-all for brain damage that doesn't show up on scans and tests, and includes a common set of symptoms like trouble focusing, lack of motivation, and (um, what was the other major thing... oh, also memory problems, and... oh right,) trouble making decisions. None of my doctors have followed up on it, but I wonder if ADHD treatments might help.

I also really need to post a life update in my own journal... but first, I'm off to make supper.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! And I'm sure you can - it takes working out what works for you, primarily. Once I was able to get past what Conventional Wisdom said, and separated morality from eating so that I could still enjoy eating during all of this, it more-or-less clicked.

Honestly, I'm going to celebrate my 40-pound weightloss tonight by going and getting a huge, sloppy order of nachos from the Taco Cabana nearest my apartment - it'll blow my calorie budget for today, but by less than 500, and I will not feel one iota guilty about it. I will sit on the couch and savor every last yummy bit of it. :) And the hell with everyone who says you shouldn't tie food into rewards! It damn well works for me.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Good for you! :D You're welcome, and I'm happy to help. XD

[identity profile] paper-legends.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, you are my hero and an inspiration! 40lbs in 27 weeks is a freak AMAZING result. The only thing I would say is that, as you get closer to whatever your goal is, "muscle confusion" could really prove a good idea. After 27 weeks (hell, after 3 weeks) your body remembers what it takes to do that particular exercise and it can plateau. Do 3 weeks on a bike and a week of walking; 3 weeks on a bike and a week of yoga; 3 weeks on a bike and a week of swimming. Work new muscles, when closer to your goal. For instance, I have 10-15lbs left to lose, so I got the P90X dvds and I hope that will break me out of this 7 week plateau of going up and down between 138 and 142 over and over and over. Driving me nuts.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! :D And in relation to the thing about what works for each person, I just posted in a comment above that I was going to reward myself tonight with a huge, sloppy order of nachos from Taco Cabana. Lots of people say not to tie rewards in with food, but the hell with them: it works for me. Maybe if I found I was rewarding myself every day, or a few times a week, it wouldn't be a good strategy, but I don't do that very often. (At least not since the AD/HD meds kicked in: I used to rationalize drinking Coke as a type of reward or as a migraine preventative [quick rise in blood sugar can abort one sometimes for me] every time I bought one, but that habit evaporated some time ago.)

And I am going to enjoy every last bite of those nachos without one shred of guilt. XD

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! :D And yeah - I'd known that you can plateau due to that, and also I've seen lots of people complaining that the closer you are to goal weight, the harder and slower it is to lose, so I'm preparing for that. But that's a long time off at the moment. XD

It'll be an excuse to buy more toys, I think: I want to incorporate weights so that I can build muscle and get stronger, and it'll be a total excuse to buy a weight set or a (cheap, unfortunately) home gym thing. I love futzing with weight machines at the gym, but the time and effort it takes to go to one tends to cancel out my fun. A home set would see a lot more use, I think.

Good luck to you! :D

[identity profile] kungfufighting.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That's absolutely fabulous. Good on you.

I recently read Staying Healthy With Nutrition by Elson Haas, and I recommend you give it a flick through. He's totally against dieting and whatnot, but is very clear on what vitamins we all need and what vitamins our food is giving us exactly. From your post, it seems like you might be able to gain something from a read-through. I don't recommend it to anyone, but you've got a super attitude towards this, and you've built yourself a perfect routine that suits you well, which I think is great. Any little thing from that book can help.

Height-weight charts are satanic. All through adolescence, they drove me crazy, even though I was an ideal size. Why? Because my bones are denser and I had more muscle than most 15 year old girls. Aaargh.

Your LotR posts entertain me endlessly. I may start doing that myself soon. ^-^

[identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never really worked out my calorie intake. I never really saw a reason too. But because my body frame is slender, I made a conscious decision to start exercising more because I need to keep my bones strong and my muscles fit. Upper body strength (maintaining it, let alone increasing it) has always been an issue, given my small size, but I really want to try.

It's one of the reasons why I'm kinda surprised my weight hasn't gone up since I started doing yoga again. My weight's stayed the same even though I've lost a couple inches around the waist and hips, so I'm assuming that means fat is being converted to muscle. And when that happens, weight typically goes up. I don't know. Maybe this just means I had super flabby muscle. D:

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! :D And congratulations! I did a bit of t'ai chi one semester in highschool: I was taking a theatre class and the instructor taught us one form, and we did that as a warm-up before acting stuff. I liked it a lot - I should think about looking into it at some point. :D

From what I understand, anxiety can mimic ADHD symptoms, which is why the ADHD diagnosis has to be made only after a history is taken, because ADHD is incurable and manifests first in childhood. I'm sure there's a lot of other things that produce the same symptoms, too - after all there's only a limited number of ways the brain can interact with the outside world, no matter what's going on with it inside.

And in addition to medical treatment, there's a number of strategies out there for ADHD people to use to increase focus and whatnot, so you could look at some ADHD books and see what they suggest*. (I recommend avoiding anything that insists ADHD is not a disorder but a "brainstyle" because they spend way too much time assuring me that I'm not a bad or broken person because I have a "disorder." I'm not stupid, people! I know that! Stop wasting space on reassuring me and start telling me what to do to cope!)


* I like "Fidget to Focus", but I can save you the cost of the book by telling you what it says: dissipating excess energy by fidgeting physically in some way - tapping a foot, doodling, clicking a pen, etc. - helps some people to focus their brain, because the bit of the brain that's always wandering off and getting lost and dragging the attention with it is occupied with the fidget. It can be as dramatic as listening to a textbook on audio while playing a video game, or as minor as twitching your toes inside your shoe during a meeting. And some ADHD people who have trouble falling asleep because their brain whirls around too much find it easier to hold their arm stright up (perpendicular to the bed), until they fall asleep, because the monitoring necessary to keep the arm raised occupies the whirly-thoughts part of the brain. That doesn't seem to work for me, because I feel immensely silly even when there's no one but the cat to see, but the fidgeting thing works a bit for me. When I remember to fidget, that is. XD

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I'll take a look at it. I know that I don't get all the vitemins I need from my food, and combat that with a supplement every day. I started that a year and a half ago - being lactose intolerant and hating dark green leafy things, I don't get enough calcium naturally - and after a few months noticed a drop in the frequency of migraines that seemed to correspond with it. I mentioned it to my doctor, and she theorized it might be due to B vitamins. I tell ya, the threat of more migraines keeps me on that vitamin regimen more than anything else ever. XDD

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Bone strength is a concern for me, since I'm lactose intolerant. Luckily it didn't kick in until I was in my early 20s, so I spent my childhood eating lots and lots of cheese. :) I want to start incorporating weights into my exercise routine, but as I said to [livejournal.com profile] paper_legends below, that might be a good excuse to buy more toys when I hit a big plateau and need to shake up my routine. XD

I enjoy stats and playing with numbers (inexplicably, because I hate math), as you've seen with the meme XD, so charting calories and taking measurements and all that works to keep me focused on it. Seems to be work for my mom, too: we phone each other up and talk numbers at each other. But she's a retired math teacher, so it makes more sense for her. :D It's all down to what works for who.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! I revel in my nerditude! XD
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[identity profile] sub-divided.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Good for you! I think I worked something out too. I always have oatmeal for breakfast, because if I skip breakfast I just eat more later on. Then, no matter what time I ate breakfast, I wait at least four hours before eating lunch. Lunch is either soup or a sandwich because I like soup and sandwiches. After lunch, it must be at least four hours before I eat dinner. Maintaining these time separations is important, because I don't always wake up at the same time, and if I ate according to the clock half the time I'd eat too early and end up eating a second dinner.

Counting calories would drive me nuts. ^^; What's important is timing. (And limited the amount of instant-access food in the house.)

For exercise, I do 80 crunches when I wake up and before I go to bed, 20 push-ups twice a day, walk half an hour a day, and three times a week I do reps with 5-pound weights. At first, when I started, it was really hard to do reps, because weight-training is boring and even when I wasn't physically tired, I'd lose interest in what I was doing and give up halfway through to go get a snack or something. So, to make things more interesting, I started counting in unique ways: backwards in sets of four (4, 3, 2, 1, 8, 7, 6, 4), forwards in consecutively increasing sets (1, 2, 1, 2, 5, 1, 2, 3, 9), forward in sets of alternating threes and fives, etc. It's had the side effect of improving my mental math skills, XD.

[identity profile] paper-legends.livejournal.com 2007-07-08 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Target has a great set of hand weights on a little pyramid rack so they won't mess up your floors/carpet. I'd get them myself but I'm watching my moola at the moment. It's so weird, but lifting weights will burn fat faster and longer than tons of cardio.

I wonder if I'm doing *too* much at the moment. I do a half hour abs tape in the morning and then a stretch or a walk; and then at lunch an hour of weight lifting or running. I keep my calories between 1450 and 1800 a day, depending on hunger, and eat a wide variety of non-processed foods. So I *should* be losing faster. So far, I've lost 15lbs since February, but, that's like half a pound a week. And I'd go off my diet and exercise program for a few weeks, then over do it, yo-yoing all over the place. I wonder if I should try your strategy of letting myself have a piece of cake, but then restricting calories later in the day. It's hard for me b/c I've always been an extremist--all or nothing mentality. Biggest hurdle for me...

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