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A second entry immediately after I posted the last one, to spare anyone who doesn't want to read the spoiler in the previous. Give me examples of manga/manhwa/manhua based on fiction or history, plzkthx. :) Loosely based is OK. The ones I can think of offhand are:

CLAMP, RG Veda, the Rg Veda
Kazuya Minekura Saiyuki, Saiyuki Reload, the Journey to the West
Akira Toriyama, Dragonball, Dragonball Z, ditto
You Higiri, Cantarella, the life of Cesare Borgia
Nobuhiro Watsuki, Rurouni Kenshin, looooooooosely based on the events and personages of the Meiji era
Han Seung Hee and Jeon Jin Seok, One Thousand and One Nights, which is a double whammy being based on the Arabian Nights for the containing story, and gleefully ripping off world literature and history for the stories within the story
Takehiro Inoue, Vagabond, based on a historical novel about the youth of the historical figure Musashi Miyamoto

I'm not really talking light novels turned into manga, like Slayers, instead more of a fanfic approach like One Thousand and One Nights, or taking an older, traditional story and retelling it reasonably accurately (I have no idea how close to the source CLAMP's RG Veda is) approaching it from a different direction, like Saiyuki. (Vagabond is a bit weird, but I'm under the impression it was a classic novel before being adapted, and wasn't written with eventual manga/anime in mind.)
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[identity profile] estara.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
CLAMP, Legend of Chun Hyang, Tokyopop release in English - retelling of a Korean folktale
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[identity profile] lady-noremon.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I was just going to mention that one :)

[identity profile] mscongeniality.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still half asleep, but two that immediately come to mind are Kaze Hikaru and Peacemaker Kurogane which are both set among the Shinsengumi. Oh, and Matsuri Akino did a manga based on the tale of Mulan.
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2007-03-06 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
- Gekka no Kimi by Ako Shimaki: loosely based on The Tale of Genji (some of its characters are reincarnations of Genji characters. I love it so.
- Kaze Hikaru by Taeko Watanabe: girl disguises herself as a boy to join the shogun-loyalist Shinsengumi, becomes comrades with many real-life historical figures and falls in love with Okita Soji, the only Shinsengumi member to know her secret. I am expecting this series to rip my heart out and stomp on it as the series' history progresses ("And then they all died, THE END").
- Cesare by Fuyumi Soryo (MARS, Eternal Sabbath): Cesare Borgia, baby.
- Some of Osamu Tezuka's work (I think some of these are anime instead of manga, oh well): Shin Takarajima / New Treasure Island (inspired by the Robert Louis Stevenson book), Eigoban Tsumi to Batsu / Crime and Punishment (inspired by Dostoevsky's book), Ayako (based on WWII apparently), Buddha (Buddha, baby), Adolf (3 Adolfs, including Hitler), Ludwig B (Beethoven, baby), Gringo (Japanese businessman in South America-based), and I can't remember the title but there's one manga based on Faust, and I'm sure there are probably more. Clearly the God of Manga was all about the "based on true and/or fictional events!"
- Naruto by Masashi Kishimoto: Tsunade, Jiraiya, and Orochimaru are all characters from the 18th century(?) Japanese popfic serial novel, The Tale of Gallant Jiraiya. Oh, Japan.
- Rose of Versailes: French revolution, baby.
- Mister Mermaid: Most. Depressing. Little Mermaid adaptation. Ever.
- Princess Tutu ahahahaha well actually the manga sucks and isn't based on much.
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[identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG CESARE BORGIA IS THE NEW SHOJO BLACK MUST HAVE!

Um, also see Cantarella by You Higuri.
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2007-03-06 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Admit it, you're just seduced by the enormous tracts of architecture.

[identity profile] cerusee.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Soryo wrote Cesare Borgia? MUST HAVE NOW.
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2007-03-06 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
This group has it on their "future projects" list, but I haven't seen any English scanslations yet.

The horse is very pretty! And I feel sorry for the blond guy already.

[identity profile] cerusee.livejournal.com 2007-03-07 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
MUST LEARN ITALIAN NOW.

Life was ever so much easier when I was only obsessed with comic books written in my native language.
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[personal profile] oyceter 2007-03-06 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Soryo did Cesare Borgia too?! ZOMG MUST HAVE!

Yuki Kaori does a lot of fairy tale/Alice in Wonderland "rewrites" in the form of insane Gothic Victorian murder mysteries in Cain/Godchild.

There is an actual Tale of Genji shoujo manga, along with a Genji anime movie.

Night on the Galactic Railroad is the anime adaptation of a novel by Miyazawa Kenji.

[identity profile] redsnowpenguin.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
There are several Three Kingdoms mangas (though I can't name titles offhand).

You Higuri has a story based on Ludwig II of Bavaria, and another story based on suicidal wife-beater Prince Rupert (son of Francis I, I think?).

[identity profile] maiteoida.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Let's see...Gorgeous Carat, takes place in what, 1800's France? It's been a while since I read it...

Tactics by Sakura Kinoshita/Kazuko Higashiyama also rather loooooosely takes place during the Meiji era. Though honestly, I'm not sure if it has any bearing on the story other than providing a setting. *lol*

Gerald et Jacques- French revolution!

That's all I can think of right now, though I KNOW I could probably think of more- they're all escaping me! Oh well.

And yeah, Vagabond was based off of Musashi which is like, THE classic and quintessential samurai novel. :D I hold it close to my heart. Which probably means I should read Vagabond some time, huh...

[identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Shin Angyo Onshi by Kyung-Il Yang and In-Wan Youn, which is loosely based on The Legend of Chun Hyang with several historical personages (Pak Munsu), folktales (Pak Munsu & the Kumiho) and Korean literary references thrown in (The Legend of Hong Gildong). Please don't ask me to pull out all the references... because there are SO MANY.

I think the one manhua that's based on The Three Kingdoms is Ravages of Time. I have no idea who draws that.

I swear I know more... but they aren't coming to me right now. Maybe an update later?

[identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh well. Yes. Samurai Deeper Kyo by Akimine Kamijyou is indeed based on history and has a whole slew of historical folk (from Tomoe Gozan to the Tokugawa!) but it's in no way accurate. Like, at all.

(The manga is, however, way better than the anime it's not even funny.)
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2007-03-06 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Benitora as Tokugawa Hidetada will never not be funny.
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2007-03-06 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not think I would have such a deep odd irrational fondness for Samurai Deeper Kyo if I had not first read it while taking Intro to Japanese History. Going "WTF" back and forth between textbook & manga = WIN

"Hello~! ♥ I'm Sanada Yukimura! ♥ ♥"

NO. NO YOU'RE NOT.

[identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Speaking of which, Yukimura Sanada shows up in a Tenjou Tenge flashback! And he bore a remarkable resemblance to Bunshichi, which made me go, "Oh!Great, what are you implying? That Yumimura is an ancestor of Bunshichi?"
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2007-03-06 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
After they supposedly die, all the heroes of Japanese military history get sent to breeding farms to continue the lines of shonen morons!

[identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Would Blueseed (based on the Izumo cycle) count too? It was a manga before it got made into the anime.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
*googles Izumo cycle*

That would be exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for. :)

[identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
It approaches the cycle from a different way, I suppose. The heroine is a descendant of Kushinada Hime and is originally intended to be a sacrifice when Yamato no Orochi and his descendants (the Aragami) wake up. I watched the anime way back in high school when everything was still on VHS. I keep meaning to buy the DVD thinpak though since I actually know my Japanese folklore and legend now so I'd be able to get everything that was going on.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool. :) I'm basically noodling at a column idea showing how some mangaka borrow stories or events and illustrate or rewrite them. Hopefully, eventually to also suggest epics/stories/whatever that haven't been attacked this way for future mangakas to mine. :)

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[identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and Utopia's Avenger is based on The Legend of Hong Gildong (Korean novel that was all DOWN WITH THE MAN!).

Addendums:
- CLAMP's Legend of Chun Hyang is based on Legend of Chun Hyang, the children's folktale.
- Woun & Yang's Shin Angyo Onshi is based on Legend of Chun Hyang, the novel. (The folktale is based on the novel but it's a happier version, where the heroine doesn't kill herself at the end.)
- RG Veda really has nothing to do with the original scripture. They just take the names (well, the Japanese versions anyway) and general (GENERAL!) traits.
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2007-03-06 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
A teeeeeeny little coffee table book I was looking at, The Comics Go to Hell, has a couple of pages with scans/notes about the Faust!Devil in Tezuka's Faust-manga and the Devil in Princess Knight (I almost bought it for the Princess Knight scan). IIRC there's stuff about it/Tezuka in the big floppy Comics Journal manga Special Edition 2005 issue. Which was completely worth the $5 I paid for it for page 40, OMG I must scan.
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2007-03-06 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooooh, lookit CBJ #270! "Ng Suat Tong offers an examination of classic Chinese tales translated into comics form."

Iiii should subscribe. But hey, broke. I at least want to replace my poor Shoujo Issue that got rained on.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I should get that. Wonder if I could ILL it...?
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2007-03-06 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Or maybe look up the article in online academic thingies?

Speaking of which, oh God someone let the CJ loose on the scanslators. I can smell the shoujo condescension from here.

P.S. page 40! (Large image, blood and gore, raaaaaage)

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooooooo. :D

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2007-03-07 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Izumo cycle

Itsuki Natsumi's Yakumo Tatsu (Eight Clouds Rising) riffs on that one too. Using Susano-o's poem from the Kojiki as its title.

There's a couple of Shinsengumi manga besides Peacemaker- BL versions (http://www.aestheticism.com/visitors/manga/soshite_haru/index.htm) by Ikushima Miya and occult versions by Iwasaki Youko and probably Kabuki versions as well. The many creative uses of a bunch of Kyoto thugs.

Though ya know, the one thing I've never come across is any kind of Chuushingura manga. It may well exist- I just haven't seen it. Which is odd, because there are manga about kabuki actors, and stories where kabuki scenes echo in the life of the cators. But for such an historical biggy, Chuushingura seems oddly overlooked. You may say it's too male for shoujo manga but hell- Shinsengumi's pretty male too.

[identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet you're loving my inability to form coherent lists today!

Samurai Executioner, which is about Kubikiri Asa. (Who coincidentally gets mentioned in the latest English volume of Blade of the Immortal.)
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[identity profile] sub-divided.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Historical_manga

Note: some are not actually historical in a way that means "based on real people and events".

[identity profile] dusk.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
CLAMP's Legend of Chun Hyang is also based on history, I think ...

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
As far as I can tell, the only thing CLAMP's RG Veda has in common with the original is the title.

[identity profile] matildarose.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm.

Joan, by Yoshikazu Yasuhiko. A story based around, you guessed it, Joan of Arc.

[identity profile] arkanefyre.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Clamp. I think it was called Yuki Onna? Based on the Japanese legend of the Snow Lady.

....if you don't mind sex in your manga, Princess Paffy and the 40 Thieves is a spoof of sorts on Ali Baba. The mangaka, Kayano (http://www.kayono.net/) bases her mangas on historical settings, usually arabic.

[identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Shirahime Syo. It's not really based on the yuki-onna myth though.

[identity profile] marith.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Ryoko Ikeda did a whole bunch of manga that might qualify, in addition to Rose of Versailles. Wikipedia sez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyoko_Ikeda) one based on the Nibelungen, and I know she did one about Catherine of Russia too.

Now if only someone would publish them here. *pines*

[identity profile] tsuzuki-love.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Tsuki no Shippo (released in the US as "Tail of the Moon") by Ueda Rinko is a semi-historical tale featuring Hattori Hanzou(s), Tokugawa Ieyasu, and some other known figures.

[identity profile] tirwen.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Peacemaker - Nanae Chrono

Samurai Deeper Kyo - Akimine Kamijyo (historical figures but dubious history)

[identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com 2007-03-06 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The You Higuri life of Ludwig of Bavaria is called Ludwig II, a title which has caused problems in this household: "I'm reading Volume One of Ludwig II." "Cool. What else are you reading?" "Just that." "Uh..."

Tezuka wrote a manga (later filmed) called Metropolis, based vaguely on the Fritz Lang film, and made a film called Cleopatra, which was exceedingly artily boring except that Julius Caesar had NINJA. No, really, it was the best thirty seconds ever-- Caesar and Cleopatra were standing around talking and then Caesar said, to empty air, something like 'go tell so-and-so to have some other guy killed' and *fwip* there was this ninja in the Classic Ninja Kneeling Pose (TM) saying 'it shall be done' and vanishing. I had not previously been aware that Julius Caesar really should have had ninja, but now I have seen the light.

Galaxy Express 999 is a version of Night on the Galactic Railroad.

The mangaka of From Eroica With Love, whose name I am currently forgetting, also did a manga life of Czar Peter the Great. Bzuh?

There is a currently running anime called Les Miserables: Petite Shoujo Cosette. I have also run across an anime adaptation of The Three Musketeers, still titled that, and my current nominee for Scariest Anime Ever, Von Trapp no Monogatari, which is just what it sounds like.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2007-03-07 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Von Trapp no Monogatari, which is just what it sounds like.

*hides under the bed*
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[personal profile] snarp 2007-03-07 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Houshin Engi, by Ryu Fujisaki - based on The Creation of the Gods, a Chinese novel that's basically immortals-with-weird-powers-oriented. The manga is pretty much a comedy, and has a lot Saiyuki-type anachronisms, like a guy with magical circuit-board powers.

Ryuuroden, by Yoshito Yamahara - based on The Romance of the Three Kingdoms, an I-guess-fairly-historical Chinese novel. There are some time-traveling Japanese high-schoolers in the manga.

Yamato Gensouki, by Yabuki Kentarou - very roughly supposed to be about the unification of Japan as a nation. Very roughly.

Onii-sama e / Brother, Dear Brother, by Riyoko Ikeda - Sorta? It's set at a girl's high school, and the girls have an obsession with the French Revolution, and one of them is named after a revolutionary, Saint-Juste. Another is called Prince Kaoru, after Kaoru from The Tale of Genji. I'm not under the impression that the plotline really mirrors either, though.

Boku no Son Goku, by The Goddamn Tezuka - Why, whatever could this be about!

Bride of Deimos, Etsuko Ikeda and Yuho Ashibe - If Greek mythology counts. Liberal abuse of Greek gods with spooky eyes in the service of killing off Japanese high-schoolers.

[identity profile] stardustmajick.livejournal.com 2007-03-07 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Did anyone mention Gankutsuou? Based loosely on The Count of Monte Cristo. Ayashi no Ceres by Yu Watase is based on tennyou myth, the Japanese answer to Celtic selkies.

And if out and out yaoiful playing with history okay, Yoritomo Yoshitune Benkei by Moka Azumi puts an alternately incestuous and blasphemous spin on the history of Minamoto no Yoshitsune, Benkei the monk and Yoshitsune's older brother I forget the name of. :x

[identity profile] stardustmajick.livejournal.com 2007-03-07 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, oh! And Mangetsu Monogatari by Nakamura Shungiku, a tongue-in-cheek "retelling" of the Princess Kaguya fairy tale.

Also, Yoritomo Yoshitsume Benkei might also be called Amasakaru. The scanlation site has it listed as both. :(

Na mo Naki Tori no Tobu Yoake (Innocent Bird) by Kisaragi Hirotaka is bible slash has cameos by Judas and Jesus and Beelzebub! >.>;
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[identity profile] lady-noremon.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
There is that anime based on "The Count of Monte Cristo" can't rember the name though, or if it has a manga.
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[identity profile] lady-noremon.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
oh and "Snow in the Dark" somewhat loosely based-off "Snow White"

[identity profile] ah-chan.livejournal.com 2007-03-09 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
There's a manga spin-off of the video game Suikoden III, and the video games take off the chinese classic Water Margin I think? Not sure of the extent that they do having only played Suikoden II briefly.

Also Matantei Loki Ragnarok by Sakura Kinoshita which has any number of Norse gods as characters.

Also, there's the BL manga Demian Syndrome by Mamiya Oki, where the main characters connected in their childhood over the book Demian by Herman Hesse, and references the book throughout the series, with a bonus of the characters angstily quoting it aloud in volume 4!

Also Hattori Hanzo appears in any number of things: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattori_Hanzo although you may be interested in:
"The manga Hanzo no mori by Kazuo Koike and Goseki Kojima dramatizes the adventures of the young Hattori Hanzo and his master Tokugawa Ieyasu. It is available in English as Path of the Assassin from Dark Horse Comics."
-As well as Basilisk which apart from having Hattori Hanzo as a character, from the first few episodes and the live-action movie seemed like a Romeo and Juliet story with NINJA CLANS!

Samurai Champloo has some (references to) historical figures/locations throughout it. (Most memorably Van Gogh!)

...I suppose one could say Angel Sanctuary?