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telophase ([personal profile] telophase) wrote2012-05-05 07:24 pm

Wow

Watching Captain America in preparation for the Avengers tomorrow.

....Holy Hopping Hand Grenades, what a horrifically clumsy attempt to subvert national and ethnic stereotypes in his task force!

--Somewhat Uncouth Generically Asian Guy
--Multilingual Educated Black Guy
--Mustachioed Bowler-Hatted Ginger Not Irish Guy
--Mousy Smoking French Guy
--Forgettable British Guy who Says 'Mind the Gap'
--Captain America's Generic White Childhood Buddy

Tommy Lee Jones is what I'm in this for, really.


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[personal profile] oracne 2012-05-07 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, all those stereotype guys were from the Howling Commandoes in the Sgt. Fury comic, from the 1960s. So they're also a shoutout to the old skool fans.

[identity profile] tool-of-satan.livejournal.com 2012-05-06 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Most of the task force is supposed to be the Howling Commandos. I understand why they put them in but I would not have done it since a)it comes off as you say without any explanation or real time with the characters and b)the unit, in its old comic, was led by Nick Fury, which they obviously couldn't do.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2012-05-06 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I thought it might be the case that at least the Irish stereotype guy was in canon somewhere, since his character design was so distinct and didn't quite fit in. (I was half expecting him to be named Paddy O'Malley.).

[identity profile] tool-of-satan.livejournal.com 2012-05-06 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's "Dum Dum" Dugan, the only one I can recognize (I never read the comic myself). The black guy and I think both the English and French guys are in canon as well. Bucky Barnes was of course not part of the team in the comic (he was Captain America's teenage sidekick in the 1940 comics).

[identity profile] tavella.livejournal.com 2012-05-06 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
They are all in fact canonically members of the Howling Commandos at one time or another in the comics.

[identity profile] movingfinger.livejournal.com 2012-05-06 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
The Japanese-American guy from Fresno would have been in a segregated unit, the famous 442nd, after having been imprisoned in an internment camp in the US, and it is unlikely that he would have landed with all those other mostly-white-guys in there...

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2012-05-07 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
The contemporary comics had Cap's unit integrated. IDK if it was a plot point or just the Marvel guys wanting to be better than the current military.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2012-05-07 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish they'd put in a mini-scene where Cap got to demand they all stay together, at least.