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The Washington Post on casting the Avatar movie.

[identity profile] redsnowpenguin.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Ehh. Ehhh.

*whips out the Red Cliff to cleanse the palate* I, for one, can name dozens of Asian actors! *puffs chest*

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't necessarily name them, but I can say "That guy who played that role in that movie!"

I sort of do that for white actors also, although I admit I know a higher proportion of white actors' names off the top of my head than Asian.

[identity profile] redsnowpenguin.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect your Asian:Western movie consumption ratio is probably similar to my my Western:Asian movie consumption ratio. :O

I would like to take the floor now and plug a fantastic Kazakh movie~ Mongol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_(2007_film)) mightn't be news to you, though... But if anyone else is reading, go and watch it~ And while you're at it, there's a movie whose title escapes me now --- it's available for watching online on Netflix --- about a woman stalking a group of raiders who kidnapped her child for their army. It's hilarious in a warm and sophisticated and very black way.

While we're still on the subject, the theme for Red Cliffs (directed by John Woo about a battle in Southern China in classical times, so it has nothing to do with Central Asia) --- the theme for the movie is sang by a Tibetan woman who crossovered to Jpop after China opened her doors in the 90s.

Whew.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I've heard of Mongol, and intend to see it at some point. XD

There's a documentary called Saltmen of Tibet, which I watched via Netflix and ended up purchasing*. It follows a group of Tibetans on their yearly trek to the salt flats to gather salt to sell, and the rituals and ceremonies that surround that. Fascinating.






* Well, because there's a story in there spinning off of Spindrift, but as NOBODY EVER PICKS THAT in Yuletide, it's only in outline form right now.

[identity profile] redsnowpenguin.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
er, I'm sad I canceled my Netflix trial. ;_; (Speaking of Netflix, there's a dramatization, funded by National Geographic I think, based on a group of Tibetan anti-poaching vigilantes. It's a little bit heavy-handed...but I recommend it anyway? Oh netflix, take me baaaaack I'm sorry I left you)

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I like Netflix because you can put the account on hiatus for 3 months, or, at any time, change your subscription. If I'm not watching many movies, I'll go down to the cheapest one-at-a-time plan, or back up to the 3-at-a-time plan when I start watching them again. :)

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2009-03-03 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
I might even be able to name a dozen who speak English!

[identity profile] blades-of-ice.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, at least Jesse McCartney bailed. The other three should follow suit.

Honestly, I never had a clue there was a large population of Mongolians around here. I feel so lame...

[identity profile] homasse.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
The casting folks really don't get it at all, do they?

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
"We're a multi-ethnic society!"

Well yeah, but

(a) Avatar is not set in 21st century America, and

(b) the world of Avatar is already multi-ethnic, with characters coming from all sorts of different backgrounds. ... What? "Asian" isn't a single ethnicity? THE HELL YOU SAY!!

[identity profile] cicer.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
What? "Asian" isn't a single ethnicity?

I really, really think that this is exactly what the studios believe. And that makes me bewildered, and a little nauseated.

Unfortunately, I guess it's not that much of a surprise. We've all seen Hollywood pull this kind of stuff before, randomly substituting, say, Chinese cultural stuff for a story that calls for Korean culture, and then getting angry and confused when fans get pissed. Augh. They just don't get it, do they?

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I had a roommate in grad school who'd claimed never to have eaten Chinese food. So I took her to a cheap Chinese place, and later on I heard her explaining to someone else that she didn't like Chinese food. On the basis of one dish from one mediocre Chinese restaurant. Because all Chinese food tastes the same, apparently.

Ironically, she was in graduate school for international business relations.

*headdesk*

[identity profile] fourthage.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pleasantly surprised by that article. The journalist seemed to get that the casting was sketchy.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2009-03-03 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that was reassuring.

[identity profile] fourthage.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Apropos of nothing, I was really amused when my gmail notification told me that your comment was posted 464 minutes in the future!

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
I have superpowers!

[identity profile] cicer.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
"I think it's one of those things where I pull my hair up, shave the sides, and I definitely need a tan," Rathbone told MTV.com, presumably just before his publicist sat him down for a chat about political correctness.

This is one of those moment where I just stand in awe at the things that will come out of dumb movie stars' mouths. Yikes. At least the article was appropriately snarky about this kind of stupidity, and as [livejournal.com profile] fourthage said, the writer seemed to think that the studio's behavior has been skeevy. The casting folks, however, remain blissfully oblivious.

...which is totally wrong because our world is multi-ethnic and the 'Avatar' world will be multi-ethnic

The Avatar world is multi-ethnic. Yes, that is indeed true. It draws from many different Asian and Inuit cultures, so yes, multi-ethnic.

There are, however, no white people in the Avatar world. So, studio folks, if your cast contains even a significant percentage of white actors, you are DOING IT WRONG. Augh.
ext_2414: Brunette in glasses looking at viewer with books behind her (Not white)

[identity profile] re-weird.livejournal.com 2009-03-03 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, because fans getting angry over trivial changes of adaptions is totally equivalent to being outraged over the racefail of your casting! *headpalm*