telophase: (Matsuda - teh drama!)
telophase ([personal profile] telophase) wrote2005-05-23 04:32 pm

And more advice.

Yet another crosspost from my DeviantArt journal.
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1) WTF are you people getting this idea that digital art means the End of Art As We Know It? Dude, just because some guy posts a crappy Poser render in his gallery doesn't presage the downfall of Western civilization.

2) Corollary to #1: anybody who complains that digital art is cheating or not art is strongly suggested to go do some research into what people were saying about photography 150 years ago when art photography started to come into vogue, and exactly how wrong they were.

3) Art is in the eye of the artist, not in the tools. Whatever tools it takes to get the results are fine.

4) You also cannot judge a work of art by the process unless you're talking performance art: you are stuck with judging and interpreting the final piece that the artist shows you. If you disagree and think the process is the most important part, let me inform you that all of my works are done using pigments I mined myself, ground into dust under a full moon, mixed with Tibetan yak butter that I collected and churned myself, and finally applied to handmade paper using special techniques that have been handed down for generations in my family, never to be written down. The fact that it produces works indistinguishable from those that have been slapped down on a lightbox and shaded with #2 yellow pencils is irrelevant, because as you say, the process is what you should be judging it by, not the result.

5) Being a published author does not exempt you from being an idiot.

6) Having an advanced degree does not exempt you from being an idiot. I should know. I've got several and I am often an idiot.

7) Conversely, if someone has a degree in a subject, they probably do know slightly more about it than your average Kmart stock clerk and probably should be listened to slightly more on that subject than the clerk. OTOH, they should never be trusted to stock shelves. Especially if they hold a PhD. Disaster lies in store that way.

[identity profile] selenite.livejournal.com 2005-05-23 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally agree on #7. I've met way too many PhDs who've become worthless for any useful task.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2005-05-23 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, my dad was a wildlife science PhD, and it's like: Dude, I'll defer to you on any and all matters of ecology, but when it comes to linguistics you're an idiot.

The side effect of having a wildlife science professor for a father was that whenever Mom cooked something that required carving, I got pulled into the kitchen while he wielded a knife and lectured me on anatomy. Yawn.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2005-05-23 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
* Forgot to explain that the linguistics things comes because Dad always corrected my pronunciation, but he always screwed up on non-Latin-derived words because he insisted on applying Latin rules to them. Annoying.
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[personal profile] ewein2412 2005-05-23 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I am 5 *AND* 6 and I am definitely an idiot. Does a pilot's license exempt you from being an idiot? because it was a lot harder to get than a PhD.

I have often considered selling my Master's Degree in Folklore on E-bay.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2005-05-24 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Does a pilot's license exempt you from being an idiot?

I shall refrain from answering that because my grandfather was a professional pilot and he occasionally reads my blog, and I choose not to get into trouble. ;) (Hi, Grandpa!)

because it was a lot harder to get than a PhD.

My MLIS was, like, the simplest thing EVAR. I slept through two years. Not sorry I did it - after all, it was the massive amounts of time I had free after tossing off a paper or two here and there that allowed me to teach myself the skills that got me my current job. :)

[identity profile] maiteoida.livejournal.com 2005-05-23 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for stating #1 and #2- I completely agree. Sure, digitally doing stuff means you don't have to throw away your entire picture because of an ink malfunction or something, but regardless of what medium you use, if you don't know -how- to make do of it, it doesn't matter what your process is. (Though I do admit, there's a certain...roughness in doing some things without computer that you can't achieve digitally, but that's a style thing).

(Oh, and by the way, hi. ^^; Drifter from homemade_manga who friended you, here.)

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2005-05-24 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
*wave* I love the ctrl-z function on digital work. I wish life had one - too many times I slap a line down on paper and it's "Ugh. Messed up" and my hand sort of automatically twitches to hit ctrl-z, although so far it's never done any good. :)

[identity profile] jofpgallagher.livejournal.com 2005-05-24 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
3) Art is in the eye of the artist, not in the tools. Whatever tools it takes to get the results are fine. The biggest true in this post of yours!...And I would even complemented it more! Those that cannot see art where it is art, are those that believe that Jackson Pollock's or Miro's works are the product of a mischieved toddler.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2005-05-24 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't get over the number of people who think that using a Poser render as a base and drawing or painting over it means that the artist didn't do his or her own work - the artist has to choose the lines and angle and perspective and make sure they work right, and invest a lot of time and effort into making it work as a whole. Most of the time it comes out pretty bad, but hey - most art is pretty bad. :) The masterpieces and master artists are few and far between, and if the rest of humanity wishes to dabble, so be it! Who am I to tell them they *must* draw this way or that way?

[identity profile] artist-luver.livejournal.com 2005-05-24 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
amen sistah!
every point you make is accurate! who said that digital art isn't art? give me a break. its just a new medium!

wow. your writing always amazes me. great job expresing yourself in such an eloquent text!

and who said deviant art is the destruction of art? i think its a great place to express your art! geez people. why bash everything that new?

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2005-05-24 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I think what lots of people don't understand who complain abotu art is that theyr'e seeing lots and lots of bad art because it's easier to get exposure online nowadays. There was just as much bad art before, it was that you enver saw it because nobody had a way to get it out in public. You mostly saw art that had goe trhough the filter of editors and art directors and museums. Now you see all sorts of amateur stuff and people freak out, proclaiming the devaluation of art ... dude, come on! How on earth is a 12-year-old posting her squashy-head picture of InuYasha drawn on her English homework going to bring down the art establishment?