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telophase ([personal profile] telophase) wrote2008-10-30 05:04 pm
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P.S.

I shall shortly be getting a $20 Amazon gift certificate, thanks to answering surveys. :) Feel free to rec me books.

General things I'm liking at the moment:

--traditional generic-medievaloid Extruded Fantasy Product fantasy. Yes, I've read Lackey [don't like], Eddings [ditto], most everyone who started writing fantasy in the '80s. It's recent ones I'm not familiar with. (Yes, I've read PC hodgell and am about to commence rereading so I can review To Ride A Rathorn this month for [livejournal.com profile] estara, who I owe it to. XD)

--YA fantasy

--interesting papercraft books

--interesting nonfiction, especially travel books


General things I am not liking at the moment:

--urban fantasy. Especially the sort with vampires, werewolves, zombies, or any mix of the above.

--depressing books

--anything I consider too literary, which is mostly anything that you guys love the writing of, but which I find dull to read. Er, sorry, not much help there am I?



Although feel free to rec stuff that fits the above Don't criteria, although you must explain why this one is the exception.

[identity profile] darkelf105.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you read The Blade Itself? You recommended the Black Company stuff awhile ago and I read them and loved them and it seems to me that a person that likes the Black Company would adore this book. There are sequels, but I'm only half way through the second one. However, I liked The Blade Itself enough to buy the rest of the trilogy.

I'm not gonna squee about them, though. I'll just go incoherent with how much I like them.
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[personal profile] chomiji 2008-10-30 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)


Have you read Neil Gaiman's latest? The Jungle Books go Gaiman gothic ... .

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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2008-10-30 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Seconded! I want to clutch The Graveyard Book to my bosom and run into the night never to be seen again.

You must also absolutely snag Pratchett's latest Nation if you haven't already, as it has sneaky awesome I couldn't have predicted.

Travelogue of awesome: You Can Never Find a Rickshaw When It Monsoons by Mo Willems, who created my iconified Pigeon.

Maybe a book on making pop-up books!

Come On Shore and We Will Kill and Eat You All by Christina Thompson, Superdove: How the Pigeon Took Manhattan and Then the World by Courtney Humphries (no mention of Willem's Pigeon, alas!), and The Wordy Shipmates by Sarah Vowell are among the most delightful nonfiction I've read lately.

[identity profile] forvrin.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
My Wife and I are working our way through Chrestomanci Chronicles.

[identity profile] ruffwriter.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Seconding this! It's wonderful YA fantasy, and the characters are so intriguing.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Have I recced Patricia Briggs's medievaloid fantasies too you? The Raven duology might give you some problems (the main pairing has a large age difference, but the bulk of the books are set years later when their kids are teens) but I suspect you'd like her Dragon duology, which features a hero with a speach impediment faking being dumb his whole life to avoid being killed by his warmongering father, then having to prove himself after his father dies.

Aside from Ever (which I bounced off of hard) I've enjoyed Gail Carson Levine's medievaloid fairy tale books. Simon R. Green's Hawk and Fisher books are fairly insane medievaloid fantasy about a badass husband and wife cop team who are the only up-and-up people in a fairly standard but amoral fantasy city.

Trudi Canavan's Black Magiciam Trilogy was pretty good medievaloid fantasy, but (A) trilogy instead of standalone, and (B) I have Issues regarding the ending, and expect the forthcoming sequel to address them.
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2008-10-30 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Levine stole my heart with Ella Enchanted and has kept it since I was in middle school, only to squash it flat with Ever, which I am pretending doesn't exist.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Ever was an experiment. One we are determined SHE WILL NOT LOOK BACK ON!
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[identity profile] shewhohashope.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
THERE'S GOING TO BE A SEQUEL?!

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
To the Canavans? Yes. It's going, I think, to be about *spoiler character*, but should also address Sonea's fate.
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[identity profile] shewhohashope.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it going to be a 'next generation' thing?

Like 90210?

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure, really. The comments I've read for it sound like it will still have a lot of focus of characters from the series.

[identity profile] affreca.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Rosemary Kirstein's Steerswoman series. Well written fantasy, with a good twist on medievaloid setting. Steerswoman's Road is the first two books.

Elizabeth Bunce's A Curse Dark as Gold - YA retelling of Rumpelstiltskin. The setting is very well done (water powered fabric mill), and she changes enough motivations of the Rumpelstiltskin story so it makes more sense.
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2008-10-30 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I will be looking for these at the library, thank you!

In a Japanese manga/novel series I've been reading this week, a character goes by the nickname Rune from his (inexplicably given?) real name Rumpelstiltskin. A joke about his long name fell pretty flat in English, as in Japanese "Rumpelstiltskin" is something more like "Runperusutirutsukin."
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[personal profile] oyceter 2008-10-30 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Read Steerswoman! It is awesome! And I think it has elements that [livejournal.com profile] telophase would especially like.
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[identity profile] estara.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
Jo Walton just reviewed the Steerswoman books as more sf than anything else, but she also loves them:
http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=blog&id=7878
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[personal profile] oyceter 2008-10-30 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't quite remember what you've read lately, so there may be some repeats on this...

- Marie Brennan's Midnight Never Come (fantasy) isn't medievaloid, but it's Elizabethan fantasy with Faerie that has court politics and intrigue and manages to do it in a way that's actually comprehensible to me. And I actually liked her Faerie, and I'm pretty sick of Faerie.

- Clare B. Dunkle's The Hollow Kingdom (YA fantasy) is a beast bridegroom story and reminds me of Perilous Gard, though not quite as good. And it has a hilarious talking snake.

- Kathleen Duey's Skin Hunger (YA fantasy) is a fascinating take on many medievaloid tropes, but it is horribly depressing.

- Emma Donoghue's Kissing the Witch isn't medievaloid or YA, but it's fairy tale retakes. I know it was written a while ago, but I figure some people don't know about it and it is AWESOME.

- Susan Fletcher's Alphabet of Dreams and Shadow Spinners are YA retakes of Three Magi and Scheherazade, respectively. She has excellent characterization and great female characters. Not fantasy per se, but has the same worldbuilding/story feel of fantasy for me.

- Colleen Gleason's The Rest Fall Away is Regency!Buffy, but it may be too romance-y for you. It's actually not a romance per se, but some of the voice bugs me.

- Maureen Johnson's Devilish is fun YA modern fantasy involving a deal with the devil, and it amazingly has female friendship and competition that doesn't make me want to throw things. I like her Bermudez Triangle and Key to the Golden Firebird a lot as well, but those aren't fantasy.

- I'm pretty sure you've read Ellen Kushner's Privilege of the Sword?

- I'm also pretty sure you've read Ursula K. Le Guin's Voices? Gifts and Powers are the other two in the trilogy, but Voices is my favorite. Also, kickass girl fighting colonialism!

- Laurie J. Marks' Elemental Logic series (so far, Fire Logic, Earth Logic, and Water Logic) have excellent worldbuilding, especially with gender/sexuality politics, and really looks at war and nation-building in a way a lot of fantasy doesn't. There are some plot points which I think are very deus ex machina, but I found the series very worth reading.

- I think you've read China Mieville's Un Lun Dun?

- Nnedi Okorafor-Mbachu has African-based SF YA that feels like fantasy (plant computers! interdimensional traveling!). I like Shadow Speaker more than Zahrah.

- Am assuming you've read Megan Whalen Turner and Elizabeth Wein? If not, DO. They are AWESOME AND I LOVE THEM.

- Not sure if you've read Catherynne Valente and been turned off by the style?

- Ysabeau Wilce's Flora Segunda is really fun YA fantasy involving an alternate California and an adventurous girl and her boy sidekick and several ghostly butlers

Uh. May come back if I think of more, or can always babble more in comments!

[identity profile] darkelf105.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you read Catherine Valente's The Orphan's Tales? I was enthralled by them and found them to be quite lovely, but most of the people I gushed to were turned off.

So I'd recommend them, but with reservations.

[identity profile] darkelf105.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, I second the Flora Segunda recs. So much love for that series.
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[identity profile] shewhohashope.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd rec:

Un Lun Dun, by China Mieville
A Song of Ice and Fire, by George RR Martin (actually might be too depressing)
Anansi Boys, by Neil Gaiman
Anything you haven't read by Diana Wynne Jones

To my eternal shame, I'm currently enjoying The Host by Stephenie Meyer. Not as many laughs as Twilight, but also less misogynistic, and easier to read. Mostly because it's less misogynistic, and has more plot.
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[identity profile] sub-divided.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
You could read medieval fantasy AND participate in this round of bibliophages (http://community.livejournal.com/bibliophages/15447.html) if you read Eric Flint's 1632. *looks hopeful*

[identity profile] beckyh2112.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
- Dragondoom (http://www.amazon.com/Dragondoom-Mithgar-Dennis-L-McKiernan/dp/0451458818/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225415649&sr=8-1") by Dennis L. McKiernan: Traditional generic-medievaloid fantasy with dwarves and humans quarreling over who gets the goods after the dragon that claimed a dwarfhome gets killed by humans. Princess of the humans and a prince of the dwarves go off on a quest (I forget exactly for what, but I remember the goal eventually turns into killing this other dragon), and there's a lovely love story between them.

- Valiant (http://www.amazon.com/Valiant-Modern-Faerie-Holly-Black/dp/0689868235/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225415801&sr=1-1) by Holly Black: Urban YA fantasy. Rather interesting trip through the faerie side of New York City from the point-of-view of some runaway teens. Also, a Beauty and the Beast variant with the Beast staying bestial instead of prettying up at the end.

[identity profile] tekenduis.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I think you (and your other readers and friends who enjoy YA Fantasy!) should look into a book called "An Earthly Knight" by Janet McNaughton. Janet McNaughton is a Canadian author who doesn't get nearly the recognition that she deserves:

An Earthly Knight - A retelling of the legend of Tam Lin. (This is not a modern retelling like Pamela Dean's Tam Lin, but one that's set in a contemporary-to-the-legend time.)

I really suspect you'll enjoy it. I reread it once a year or more.

[identity profile] tokyoghoststory.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
the only werewolf book i like is "sharp teeth", which is a like, los angeles drug werewolf opera or something, written in poetic form, not prose.

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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2008-10-31 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
That book broke my BRAIN. Mostly in a good way, but, werewolf poetry! MY BRAIN!

Benighted AKA Bareback by Kit...somebody is also bloody werewolf fun.

[identity profile] tokyoghoststory.livejournal.com 2008-11-02 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
it was intense! i love it so
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[personal profile] seajules 2008-10-31 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Since I didn't read them for years because people kept assuming I had and therefore didn't mention them to me--you've read Barry Hughart's Number Ten Ox and Master Li books, yes? An omnibus edition is being released tomorrow.

I will third the recommendation for Ysabeau Wilce's Flora books, and also say that you might actually like The Secret History of Moscow, which might fall under the umbrella of urban fantasy, but urban fantasy with Russian folk figures. I adore Cat Valente's work, but it sounds like it might be a bit too literary at the moment. For steampunk werewolves, you might dig Cherie Priest's Dreadful Skin (I'd also recommend her Eden Moore books, which are more straight-up horror than urban fantasy, but might still be too much that kind of thing for the moment for you).

[identity profile] chibipoe.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
I would recommend Janny Wurts' Wars of Light and Shadow(however, just wait for April, when the whole series gets mmpb released in US(support her, damnit! US-sales are kind of weak for her(she does fabulous in the UK, not so well here, but she worked a deal for them to be re-released here as a small print run for a test. If those go well, she'll be all set for the rest of the series to be released here.

Otherwise... George R.R. Martin's good, with A Song of Ice and Fire, Michelle West's Sun Sword series is good(and the accompanying volumes, the Hunter duology, plus House War, that just started, with The Hidden City.

Also, checked out from the library recently, by Jennifer Fallon, Medalon(start of a series) is shaping up to be good so far.

Kristen Britain's Green Rider series is pretty light, but entertaining.

Mmmm. I'll repost if I think of anything else. :)
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[identity profile] estara.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
Any books by Michelle Sagara West would fit (although her DAW published ones are traditional fantasy and her Lunabooks are more medieval urban fantasy).

Her first four-book series is incredibly dark epic fantasy, but I haven't managed to finish it yet, because it does get so dark emotionally.

YA: Tamora Pierce, anything by her.

Jay Lake might be cool, Tor.com had a short story that makes me really interested in his new book as it's about the aftermath of something that happens there: http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=story&id=7757
And in the comments they link to his LJ with the original short story that the new novel will be based on.

I'm also starting Mindy Klasky's Glasswright series, which looks to be deeply medieval machiavellian fantasy.
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Oh and re: owing me a review

[identity profile] estara.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
I've given books to other on-line people without nagging them about a review (and my $3000 14-year-old (1983-1997) collection of DC and Marvel comics to a fellow teacher over here, as I realised I'm not rereading them), BUT since you're a fairly well known LJer AND PC Hodgell finally got a big name publisher to reissue the books (and already has a contract for a new one next year), I really hope you'll like the series as a reread and To Ride A Rathorn, so that people who read you might be encouraged to invest into one of the most under appreciated female voices in fantasy (to my mind) - and she might get more contracts and write more books (considering the first came out in the 80ies and we're at book four and she's not immortal this might be good). So this time I'm kind of nagging, I know.


If you're really unhappy with where she's going, you can let the review drop. Personally, although the in-novel time is very short, I thought it was a great step forward into the mysteries and loose plot points of earlier novels (not the least of whom is the Rathorn).

Re: Oh and re: owing me a review

[identity profile] thomasyan.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Hodgell finally got a big name publisher [...] and already has a contract for a new one

I had not heard that. Yay!
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Re: Oh and re: owing me a review

[identity profile] estara.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
But YES! *swells with pride* AND I got to HELP her. The internet is amazing:
http://estara.livejournal.com/6317.html

You can preorder the hardcover omnibus reissue of the first two books already, so I'm nagging telophase to review To Ride A Rathorn in time to hopefully make people want to read more PC Hodgell - or even just get introduced to her.

Re: Oh and re: owing me a review

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I know I'll really like book 1, as I've reread it several times. XD Just not recently enough to remember much except a few scattered images.
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Re: Oh and re: owing me a review

[identity profile] estara.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a good start ^^, I was fairly sure of that otherwise you wouldn't have had Rathorn on your wishlist in the first place, I'm sure.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-11-02 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Have you read Sword-Dancer by Jennifer Roberson? It's dated but very readable, and the perspective character has a wonderful, strong voice.