telophase: (gojyo screw you // yomigaere)
telophase ([personal profile] telophase) wrote2008-03-23 12:52 am

GAH

GAH HAVE COMPLETELY LOST ALL ABILITY TO DRAW.

You artists know what I mean - it's a struggle to get any line down correctly, and half of them aren't right no matter what you do. It's taken me about three times as long to draw this particular two-page spread as it ought to, and there's one panel that has a serious problem that I just can't fix, because everything I do gets it more wrong. AAARRGGHHHHH





Now tear your eyes away from the Renjibutt for an instant to look at Rukia. She's supposed to be sitting, knees drawn up, and arms resting on her knees. Every single one of her proportions is completely wrong, and every single bit of her is at a different perspective from every other bit, and I can't get them right now matter how I fiddle with it, and no matter how many times I erase the whole damn thing and start over.

This is her position from another angle:



AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



ETA: What? Oh, fine. It's the best part of the entire damn two-page spread anyway.

[identity profile] emtigereyes.livejournal.com 2008-03-23 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
Mmmmmm, Renjibutt...

Anyway, here's my attempt at the issues you mentioned. Maybe they'll be of help tomorrow (sounds like you need to walk away and sleep on it for a bit... I know that helps me).

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[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-03-23 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
THanks. Hopefully that will help tomorrow. XD

The sad, sad part is that I originally drew that panel Friday night, and spent a lot of today attempting to fix it. *cries*

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2008-03-23 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
Were that available to me, I would not be off huddling in a corner.

(Sadly, I am beyond useless on the art front...)

[identity profile] paper-legends.livejournal.com 2008-03-23 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you're right--you can't draw and you suck. You'll never be able to compete with my world-famous stick drawings! Bwuahahahaha! It's all going according to my evil plan!

(Dude, you're awesome and the fact that you're so hard on yourself is proof you're a good artist! Hang in there and keep trying, b/c, once again, you're awesome.)

[identity profile] vom-marlowe.livejournal.com 2008-03-23 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like what my buddy aluragayle calls a 'bad hand day'. It's like the muscle memory for drawing goes off to the BBQ and beerfest and leaves us poor sods at home, scratching our heads and throwing pencils at the wall.

I think I may have some pose references for a pose like that, if you'd like me to rustle them up.

[identity profile] theidolhands.livejournal.com 2008-03-23 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Try doing something else creative but not art related. That works for me, shifting gears but keeping in the mode. :)

That's a great butt, I agree.

[identity profile] tammylee.livejournal.com 2008-03-23 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)

You artists know what I mean - it's a struggle to get any line down correctly, and half of them aren't right no matter what you do.

Welcome to my last three months. ;_;

That is a fine butt tho!

[identity profile] droiche.livejournal.com 2008-03-23 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh gods, do I know inability to get the lines to cooperate. I think 1 out of every 100 tries comes out satisfactory to me - and even the good ones have unfixable flaws. It doesn't matter if I draw with a pencil on paper or draw with a mouse using a graphics program, except that the first usually winds up FUBAR and the second gets re-edited thousands of times before I'm even remotely happy. Most of the time, I just get tired of fighting with the piece and give up.

Y'know, it took me ages to see that anything was off in your drawing of Rukia. I still don't think it needs tweaking to make it better. :D

(*refrains from pinching Renji's butt* >_>)
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Re: GAH

[identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com 2008-03-24 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
it's probably just be a bad hand day, and tomorrow you'll be back to normal. i am nowhere as accomplished at drawing as you (not by a long shot), but there are days when i can do some things right, and days when no single line comes out the way i want it, and the more i try the more frustrating it gets. it works best for me to just stop them and do something else.

does it ever help you to use yourself as a reference? i can see that the main problem here is that her upper legs are too long. if i sit down myself and try to assume that position, and i look in a mirror, i can see what it should look like. well, i could, if i weren't much fatter than rukia, *heh*. still, my legs just don't come up that high.

sorry if that's just annoying to you. :) you probably already know.

anyway, that is some FINE butt. i really like the line of his back too.

Re: GAH

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-03-24 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Sunday was much better than Saturday was, drawing-wise. :) I'm still not happy with Rukia, but I managed to redraw her to a point I could deal with it, and re-composed the panel a little bit to feature the Renjibutt more make it stronger.