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telophase ([personal profile] telophase) wrote2008-02-02 02:10 pm
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A quick book rec...

...cut and pasted from a comment I left in another post:

Oh - The best book on fashion advice I've ever read is The Triumph of Individual Style, which does the remarkable thing of saying "If you've got a large butt and want to minimize it, do this. If you've got a large butt and want to feature it, do this." It doesn't subscribe to the idea that every other fashion book out there does, which is that there is One Ideal Figure and that people who don't match it should try to dress in ways to create the illusion of it.

I note the one bad review and the comment agreeing with it, on Amazon are both from fashion designers who don't understand that a rectangular-shaped woman might not want to create a waist, that she might want to emphasize the beauty of the form she's got, instead of aspiring to a form she doesn't have. They also complain about the dated-ness of the illustrations, which is understandable since the book was originally published in the early 1990s, but they seem incapable of reading the text and applying the principles to modern styles, like all good fashion designers ought to be able to do, IM-not-so-HO.

There's lots of illustrations from paintings of beautiful women of all body shapes and types in recent centuries illustrating the principles they're talking about, too.

ETA: Just changed the link to the correct one - it was going to a pic of Cloud from FInal Fantasy VII, from a previous comment wherein I was describing what my hair is currently doing. XD

[identity profile] dorrie6.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
What a wonderful sounding book! This is something I definitely want to check out.

Why I have come out of lurkdom for this particular post, I do not know. When really I came here for the manga and Bleach anime commentary. Um. Hi.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a wonderful book! You can work out what you look like in shape, proportion and texture and find ways to dress and pick accessories that either complement or disguise those things as you wish. And it doesn't assume that you want to look a certain way.

*waves* Hi! :D

[identity profile] dorrie6.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Truly, I have never heard of such a book ever. Which now that I think about it, is really, really sad.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure another such book exists, even for hairstyles or makeup or something. Everyone assumes that there's this ideal - oval-shaped face, curvy body that's not too curvy - and that everyone wants to look like it. Which is ridiculous - if you've got a square-shaped face, why not emphasize it instead of trying to disguise your jawline? Or glory in your curves, or love your slender silhouette?

But I suppose there's more money in convincing women they fail to achieve perfection tha in convincing them they're perfect in their own way.

[identity profile] dorrie6.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Well it would be terribly, terribly dangerous if they let on that there is more than one version of beauty, wouldn't it? Certainly the world's economy would collapse entirely. ;)

[identity profile] dorrie6.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Just the thought is giving me hives.

[identity profile] yhlee.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds neat--I must see if I can get it from the local public library. :-)

ETA: Someone else has it out. D'oh! Must put in a hold request...

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
XD Well, at least you know they have it!

[identity profile] yhlee.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm #2 in queue. W00t!

Also, this gives me time to finish reading the three books I'm currently, well, reading.
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[identity profile] batwrangler.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I was wondering how I'd gotten to that FF cap. XD

The book looks great, although the cover designer clearly has a thing for Campbell Soup.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Nobody noticed it for a while, which amused me. :D (I thought it was funny that I woke up this morning with Cloud's hair - well, not as nice as his, but that same shape. XD)

The version of the book I've got has a more cluttered cover - it's got the cover you see in the link, with part of a color wheel in the lower left corner behind the leg of the figure, and an orange bar with three pictures and comments excerpted from the book along the bottom above the authors' names. XD

[identity profile] maxineofarc.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I have that book! I love it too. Come to think of it, I should dig it out and flip through it just for some inspiration-- I know my shape's changed since I first got it. Yay!

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It's been years since I went through it - I didn't even realize I had it here and not in a box in my mom's house until I found it when going through my bookshelves a week or so back. XD I need to go through it again.

[identity profile] kintail.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooo, thanks for the rec!

*runs to public library website to search for it*

*public library website craaaawls, then times out*

*cries*

[identity profile] kintail.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
And while I'm waiting for the libary website to actually start functioning again -- does it also accept the extremely radical idea that someone with a very feminine curvy body might not actually want to dress in a hyper-feminine way? Or is that too much to ask?

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup! The middle section goes through a metric ton of figure issues and explains both how to enhance them and how to disguise them.

The line pictures are all late-80s style, which means you keep expecting them to flashdance or something, but you can read the text and apply that to clothes available now.

[identity profile] kintail.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Awesome!

Unfortunately, the Toronto library does *not* have the book, and it's looking too pricy for my budget. I'll keep an eye out for it elsewhere, though.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll look for it when I go to used bookstores, and if I see a cheap copy I'll grab it for ya. :)

[identity profile] kintail.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww, thanks! And I'll let you know if I find it on my own. It's frustrating that Amazon's flat shipping rates for their used book sellers are so crazy for Canadian buyers. Cuz you know it's like shipping to another planet. :P

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
You furriners from Canadia are all crazy anyway. :D

[identity profile] kintail.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Crazy is a matter of perspective. ~_^
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[identity profile] viridian5.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
I have never been good at figuring out the shape of my anything. I'm not even sure what my facial shape is!

But nice idea for a book. Tim Gunn's Guide to Style killed me as it spited its commercial tagline of "Your style, Tim's rules" by making every woman over to be clone of the others, just with some different hemlengths to take some body shape issues into account. Oh yes, and the insistence that you should wear high heels all the time and look as if you were born in them.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
GAH, I hate that! And, hey, lets give the woman with huge upper arms - who's lost a lot of weight so we know she prefers to look thinner - DRESSES WITH CAP SLEEVES.
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[identity profile] viridian5.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
...there are few people in this world who can credibly wear cap sleeves.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you tried How to Look Good Naked yet? It's much better.
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[identity profile] viridian5.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen one episode, and it was much better until the gotcha of "We're going to photograph you... naked! (And then project it huge on the side of a building!)" Woman: "What? Noooooo!" Why does there have to be a gotcha?

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
The original UK version seems to take the beauty industry on a lot more squarely too. But it's much better than Tim Gunn.
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[identity profile] viridian5.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Most things are better than the Tim Gunn thing.